[quote=ceasar]no scripture that supports purgatory. when you become a christian you become a new creature. old things have passed away all things have become new. sin is no longer evident in your spirit. so if there’s no sin you are able to enter into heaven. and no scripture in the bible every referencing praying someone into heaven faster…gotta search out in the scripture to find out if what you believe is true…just don’t accept someones word for it…you HAVE to have scripture…
Wow, I guess that settles it! If you say it so, then it must be so!
I was going to put where Psalm 66:12, “Thou didst let men ride over our heads; we went through fire and through water; yet thou hast brought us forth to a spacious place”, was thought by Origen and St. Ambrose to indicate the water being baptism and the fire begin purgatory.
Then I was going to show where Isaiah 4:4, “When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion and cleansed the bloodstains of Jerusalem from its midst by a spirit of judgment and by a spirit of burning”, was thought by St. Francis de Sales, to indicate Purgatory.
Also, Isaiah 6:5-7: “And I said: ‘Woe is me! for I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.’ Then flew one of the Seraphim to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: ‘Behold, this has touched your kips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven.’”
I was going to indicate where Maccabees prayed for their dead in order that “they might be delivered from their sin”, in 2 Timothy 1:16-18, Paul prayed, “May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus” after he had died, and how the Early Church Fathers prayed for the souls of the dead, as is indicated on the inscriptions of early crypts and tombs.
But nevermind, Caesar has spoken!