Trust in God
Yet some people including a very prominent Catholic says he can’t be a Christian due to his policy’s…
So what to do???
It is possible to believe in God without being Christian. Also, you can be Christian in your baptism without being Christian in your behavior. People who know that Trump is Christian by baptism can still call him “not Christian” in reference to his behavior.
Not even “prominent Catholics” know the heart of President Trump.
What to do?
Stick with the founding principles of the Catholic Church, form a good conscience and follow it.
It will not be easy and will not get lots of likes and upvotes on the internet. But it will be a path to Heaven.
Anyone can.change. His vice-president is devoutly Christian and a model of propriety. Perhaps he will exert a positive influence; he’s clearly not a “yes-man” type.
And–I will make my personal assessment of President Trump based on his performance. So far, I’m quite happy.
One US Cardinal clashed with the VP on the issue of immigrants. (in 2015)
Of course he is very devotedly Christian.
Then why is he building walls and deporting poor people and banning travel for Muslims?
“Some people” say almost anything. Certain US Bishops - those who seem to value “social justice” above the Gospel, have made some absolutely astonishing statements - so rash and inflammatory that they risk inciting the unstable to acts of violence. Is that Christian? This President is the most pre-judged, most despised, most maligned, most shortchanged president in US history - in six weeks! AYKM?
Archbishop Charles Chaput has marveled at the hostility of the media toward him, asking why they do not even allow him a chance to demonstrate his leadership. Answer: The media is 90-95% left-wing and their candidate lost, despite their full-frontal assault on fairness and “the fix” supposedly being in before election day. They are crestfallen and are lashing out.
The US has lurched so far left that 50% of the nation has lost their minds. No one dared treat the outgoing president like this over the past eight years, for fear of the “R” word. Pure hypocrisy.
Christian nations have a right to defend and protect their land. That’s common sense.
He’s not deporting poor people. There are millions of poor Americans, some even desperately poor, who are always welcome to stay and live in the U.S., of course! But he is wanting to deport non-U.S. citizens who didn’t get permission first to enter the U.S. and live and/or work there. We aren’t entitled to live wherever we want in the world, countries we desire to move to have the right to accept or reject us. I can’t think of a single country that allows citizenship on demand, but I could be wrong.
He’s not banning travel for Muslims. He wants to pause people from a number of countries (7 I believe) from entering the U.S. until better security measures are put in place. Muslims from other countries can travel without issue, it isn’t a Muslim thing at all but rather based on country of citizenship. Off the top of my head, the pause time was 3 months.
May I ask where you get your news from? I think that might be the origin of your misconceptions. Several mainstream news outlets are showing themselves to actually be fake news and propaganda. I would change that if I were you.
well said RosyAnne!
Rosy Anne’s and 7 sorrows’ views are not catholic.
your views are political. Kingdom of God does not have political boundaries m dear friends
Have both of you ever read Matthew 25:43?
If not I suggest both read it first and pray for a conversion of the hearts than spending any more time on this forum
Can you please elaborate on which of 7 sorrows and Rosy Anne’s views are not Catholic.
From the Catechism
Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws, and to assist in carrying civic burdens (CCC 2241).
2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.
How come the above poster missed this part of CCC
Please read Matthew 25:43
At a pilgrimage gathering of Catholics and Lutherans from Germany, Pope Francis condemned the faith of those people who call themselves Christians by being merciless to refugees and people belonging to other faiths, reports Catholic Herald.
Francis rebuked “the contradiction of those who want to defend Christianity in the West, and, on the other hand, are against refugees and other religions.”
This is not something I’ve read in books, but I see in the newspapers and on television every day
“The sickness or, you can say the sin, that Jesus condemns most is hypocrisy, which is precisely what is happening when someone claims to be a Christian but does not live according to the teaching of Christ. You cannot be a Christian without living like a Christian,” he said.
Citing parables from the Bible, answering the questions of the young people who attended the meeting, he said, “You cannot be a Christian without living like a Christian,” he said. “You cannot be a Christian without practicing the Beatitudes. You cannot be a Christian without doing what Jesus teaches us in Matthew 25.” A reference to what is known as the Parable of the Judgment or the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
“It’s hypocrisy to call yourself a Christian and chase away a refugee or someone seeking help, someone who is hungry or thirsty, toss out someone who is in need of my help,” he said. “If I say I am Christian, but do these things, I’m a hypocrite.”
All nations must focus on “service to the poorest, the sick (and) those who have abandoned their homelands in search of a better future for themselves and their families.”
“In putting ourselves at the service of the neediest,” Pope Francis said, “we will experience that we already are united; it is God’s mercy that unites us.
I didn’t miss it. I don’t know about where you live, but where I live we have many immigrants that have come into our country. I am not against immigration. The people I know who have come into our country are wonderful, hardworking, family loving people. That does not mean that the Catholic view is to allow anyone who wants to come into the country needs to be allowed in. So, what is the view you find to be unCatholic?
Those who keep repeating that it is the religion of persons being put on hold are disingenuous to say the least. Either they are flat out lying or they have not listened to the directive. Those people who come from the countries mentioned (as high-lighted by President Obama) are from countries who do not have a vetting process that meets our standards. They do not have stable government. And people are not permanently banned, the process is being put on hold until good vetting processes can be established.
And as for the wall, I think it is a shame that it is necessary, but Mexico will not do its part in protecting the border, so how does one suggest we do so otherwise. Just how many times does a criminal have to be sent back to their own country until we take actions to keep that from continuing to happen. As generous as this country is, we cannot support all the poor people who want to come here, many times at the expense of our own citizens. I invite those who think otherwise to take a course in economics.
The Catechism calls for our government to provide for the safety of its people.
He did not ban Muslims, he did the same 7 countries as Obama and there are 50 or so Muslim countries not affected.
So you think it would be a good idea to import all that violence into the US? Do we have the write to expect the immigrant to be a good contributing citizen?
Whether you support his policies or not, no one can hold him up as a model Christian.
He’s on his third wife. He boasted that he likes to grab women by their private parts because he’s a celebrity. He played a cameo role in a porno film. He has been involved in business with questionable practices. He has mocked, humiliated and insulted people in public. He has stated in an interview that he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness.
Trump supporters will now condemn me for judging him. I am judging the public actions and statements of a public figure. I have a right, even a duty, to tell my son “this is NOT how a Christian speaks or acts”.
He is a Christian. He’s a baptized Presbyterian. That doesn’t mean his actions are Christ-worthy.
Of course…credit where credit is due. He is taking steps to further the pro-life cause that all Christians should applaud. Nothing is black and white.