Pro-Israel at any cost?


#1

I’ve always believed Israel having a right to their promised land and Jerusalem their Capital, but at what cost?

With the recent Israeli Defense Forces setting up snipers killing anybody trying to cross the Gaza border is just inhumane, immoral, and wrong.

Its sad seeing the oppressed now being the oppressor.

Exodus 23:9
9 You shall not oppress a resident alien; you know the heart of an alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt.


#2

This is the prayer forum.


#3

Yes, please pray for this.


#4

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fountain of Mercy for us, I trust in You!

Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your Dearly Beloved Son, Our Lord, Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.

For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world. x10

Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy on us and on the whole world.


#5

Hail Mary
Full of grace
The Lord is with Thee
Blessed art Thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb,
Jesus
Holy Mary
Mother of God
Pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of death,
Amen


#6

Thanks for the prayers. I think I moved it to Social Justice.


#7

Since it is in the Social Justice forum now, I believe discussion can be had. Please refrain from making rash, sweeping judgement of Israel; I trust we all remember the latest brouhaha about the 62 “innocent civilians” shot by the IDF, 50 od which then turned out to be Hamas terrorists.

That said, prayers are needed and I will say some tonight for this intention.


#8

Catholic leaders condemn use of disproportionate force at Gaza-Israel border


#10

Now that is extremist hate against Israel. Lets not go there. They are God’s Chosen people that have gone astray.

We need to pray for Israel’s leaders, and US leaders who back them unconditionally to stop the violence.


#11

I think the problem is Netanyahu. He is a bloody man who
always reaches for the sword at the least trouble. I hope for
his downfall along with Assad & Putin & the Ayatollah


#12

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This leftist tripe never gets old. Facts scream in your face, but you have an agenda, of course.


#13

I think there should be two states , one for the Palestinians and one for the Israelis .

As for Jerusalem , considering the religious character of the city for Jews , Muslims and Christians , it needs an internationally guaranteed special status .

As for the recent killings of Palestinians by Israeli soldiers , well it was simply murder .


#14

The government is not the people… I implicitly said government.

I don’t vote left?


#15

Out come the labels . :unamused::unamused::unamused:


#16

Tripe & onions?


#17

Worth a try if you never had it , though , if you suffer from gout , tripe is off limits .

I rather enjoy it…

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#18

Pro-Israel at any cost is an American Protestant ideology. It is not really catholic thinking.


#19

This.

Catholics uphold the sovereignty of nations but the Church hasn’t historically given Israel a free pass simply because it’s Israel or because of the book of Exodus or Joshua.


#20

I certainly don’t subscribe to “Pro-Israel” at any cost, however, I think making broad brush statements is not a good thing either.

I’ve been to Israel. I visited the port city of Haifa, which has a relatively large % of Muslims (like 20% of total). Very peaceful…no issues…no violence. What is different between those Muslims and the ones in Gaza? If Israel is the “oppressor”, why no violence against Israeli Muslims?

I agree that there certainly appeared in the news to be disproportionate force against in the Gaza uprising…if so, I don’t condone it. I’m specifically commenting about what I felt was an overly broad comment.

Blessings.


#21

How do you regard the 70 year Arab war against Israel?


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