[quote=Daniel Marsh] the last thing I want to see is pictures of dead babies.
That is the reality of what abortion is and does.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] At the time my wife and I were going to Ward Pres in Livionia Michigan
I assume that is Presbyterian
[quote=Daniel Marsh] and the bulletin advertised a sunday school class on apologetics… The first class showed a movie of a truck load of dead babies
I am not sure of the connection or context in which a basic apologetics talk would include movies of aborted babies. There should have been advanced warning of what would be included in the evening if they planned to use these images.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] I think the use of deception like they used is without excuse.
Deception implies they did it purposely. I cannot say that they were deceptive b/c I do not know that they did this purposely, or carelessly.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] Next week, I was told about a new class for public school teachers which is designed to build up the christian teacher I do not know what I was thinking, I went to it and you guess it, they have a speaker berating public school teachers and you are going to hell if you are not teaching in a “christian” school and so on. I left Ward that day never to return.
That does sound very odd. But, that is one specific church congregation. And, this second talk is unrelated to the first talk and unrelated to pro-life groups. It sounds like you had a problem with Ward Presbyterian Church not with the a pro-life group.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] Basically, every experience I have had with the socalled prolife movement from that day on at Madonna Univeristy used deception soley for the purpose of exposing people to pictures of dead babies.
Ok, now we’ve gone from Ward Presbyterian to Madonna University, which I am not familiar with. I do not know of what “deception” you speak regarding pictures of dead babies.
If you are stating the pictures themselves are deceptive you are wrong. They are the true face of abortion. If you are stating that the group sprung graphic images on unsuspecting people, that is different.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] Those pictures turn many people like myself off to the prolife movement and drive us away from getting active.
Yes, this is true, it might do exactly that. However, they also motivate many people to become active in pro-life work when they are exposed to the truth of abortion. These images are also highly effective in dissuading women who are considering abortion. They are the truth, and many people are sadly convinced that there is no baby, that it’s just a “blob of cells”. Graphic images do have their place within the context of pro-life work. Certainly not solely, but as a piece of the pro-life message.
[quote=Daniel Marsh] I am at the point where in good conscence I can not longer even vote for a prolife candidate because frankly our candidates have done a poor job in office.
This is not related to the rest of your post, and it seems very short-sighted and frankly lacking in sense. Pro-life candidates may or may not have done a great job in office, but putting a pro-abortion candidate in office is not the solution. The solution is to demand more of our pro-life candidates.