Proceeds through


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245 The apostolic faith concerning the Spirit was confessed by the second ecumenical council at Constantinople (381): "We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father."71 By this confession, the Church recognizes the Father as "the source and origin of the whole divinity".

248 At the outset the Eastern tradition expresses the Father's character as first origin of the Spirit. By confessing the Spirit as he "who proceeds from the Father", it affirms that he comes from the Father through the Son.77 The Western tradition expresses first the consubstantial communion between Father and Son, by saying that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son (filioque). It says this, "legitimately and with good reason",78 for the eternal order of the divine persons in their consubstantial communion implies that the Father, as "the principle without principle",79 is the first origin of the Spirit, but also that as Father of the only Son, he is, with the Son, the single principle from which the Holy Spirit
proceeds.80 This legitimate complementarity, provided it does not become rigid, does not affect the identity of faith in the reality of the same mystery confessed.

Since there is a quarrel between the Romans and Greeks about the procession of the Holy Spirit, which greatly impede unity really for no other reason than that we do not wish to understand one another—we ask that we should not be compelled to any other creed but that we should remain with that which was handed down to us in the Holy Scriptures, in the Gospel, and in the writings of the holy Greek Doctors, that is, that the Holy Spirit proceeds, not from two sources and not by a double procession, but from one origin, from the Father through the Son.

Since the Trinity (the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit) Proceed (not created, not separated, not consumed but flow forth) from the Father.

Is it ok in Catholicism, to say that "the son proceeds from the father through the holy spirit"? because "So God sent his Holy Spirit to the virgin Mary, and the Son of God took flesh from the virgin"


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No, its ambiguous because the Son is begotten from the Father


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Is it ok in Catholicism, to say that "the son proceeds from the father through the holy spirit"? because "So God sent his Holy Spirit to the virgin Mary, and the Son of God took flesh from the virgin"

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No. The Creed speeks of the procession of the Holy Spirit within the Trinity itself. It's not only incarnationally related.

The Father begets the Son. The Son is begotten by the Father. The Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, keeping in mind that the Father Himself is the unbegotten origin of the Son and all the Son has He has from the Father.

It's not about how they enter into the world of men, but speaking if God as He knows Himself.

The Son also does not "proceed" from the Father. He is begotten or generated. It is the Holy Spirit that proceeds (is spirated).


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