I wonder about the so-called “Filioque” & how exactly it can be understood that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father & the Son while staying in line with the trinitarian theology as explained by the greek fathers such as St John Damascene who says
And we speak likewise of the Holy Spirit as from the Father, and call Him the Spirit of the Father. And we do not speak of the Spirit as from the Son : but yet we call Him the Spirit of the Son. For if any one has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His (Romans 8:9), says the divine apostle. And we confess that He is manifested and imparted to us through the Son. iFor He breathed upon His Disciples, says he, and said, Receive the Holy Spirit (John 20:29). It is just the same as in the case of the sun from which come both the ray and the radiance (for the sun itself is the source of both the ray and the radiance), and it is through the ray that the radiance is imparted to us, and it is the radiance itself by which we are lightened and in which we participate. Further we do not speak of the Son of the Spirit, or of the Son as derived from the Spirit. Orthodox Faith Book 1 Chapter 8
St John Damascene teaches that the Holy Spirit has His Being from the Father & proceeds through the Son & this seems to be the Eastern Orthodox doctrine of the Holy Trinity: that there’s One Father that is unbegotten that begets the Son eternally & from which proceeds the Holy Spirit, through the Son, like heat from the Sun “proceeds” through the rays of the sun. In other words, the Father is the ‘cause’ of the other 2 persons of the Holy Trinity, who have their being from Him.
They call this the ‘monarchy of the Father’ & it was an important concept when defining the Nicene Creed to battle the so-called subordinationism view.
As I understand the Catholic doctrine, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father & the Son ‘as from One principle’? Because the Son is begotten by the Father:
The Council of Florence in 1438 explains: “The Holy Spirit is eternally from Father and Son He has his nature and subsistence at once (simul) from the Father and the Son. He proceeds eternally from both as from one principle and through one spiration . . . . And, since the Father has through generation given to the only begotten Son everything that belongs to the Father, except being Father, the Son has also eternally from the Father, from whom he is eternally born, that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son.” Catechism of the Catholic Church, 246
Are these 2 views usually exclusive to eachother?
What’s wrong with the description that the Spirit proceeds “through the Son” instead of from?
I’m used to the Filioque, but the Damascene trinitarian theology is very attractive I think.