Protesters disturb Mass at Catholic churches across valley


#1

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) - Parishioners are terrified after protesters have disturbed Mass at several Catholic churches across the valley.

The group, Koosha Las Vegas, includes members who clearly identify themselves as former Muslims turned Christians. They’ve been entering churches during services, shouting at Catholics that they need to repent now or else, and filming the acts and posting them on the internet.

The videos make clear the group has been active on the Las Vegas Strip and several other places around the valley; they’re often seen with large signs and megaphones. The difference now is that they’re going into houses of worship and causing disturbances. Parishioners tell Action News it’s made them fear for their lives.

ktnv.com/news/protesters-disturb-mass-at-catholic-churches-across-valley


#2

Out of curiosity but serious question; has anyone ever been converted by a megaphone?


#3

I hope some of those parishioners are packing guns, it looks like
they might need them to defend themselves.
Think of the people in the S. Carolina massacre.

Since the San Bernardino shooting, some sheriffs from all areas of the country
are telling citizens who are familiar with guns to arm themselves for
protection.
This video lends even more credence to the sheriffs’ concerns.


#4

It appears to me these people have retained some elements of Islam, namely conversion by force or intimidation. Both Islam and Christian fundamentalism share a belief in individual interpretation which can be very dangerously WRONG.

Jesus definitely knew what he was doing when he established a church with his own authority handed on to his apostles and guided by the Holy Spirit.


#5

You definitely couldn’t make this one up! :eek:

Converted Christian Muslims attack Catholics - all sounds very suss to me. :confused:


#6

:thumbsup:

The evils of Muhammad take a long time to overcome, hopefully with time and a greater understanding of our Lord, they’ll stop this nonsense.


#7

And none of them were arrested ? Wonder what would happen if they did this in a Mosque ? My guess is that it would be a so called hate crime.


#8

Honestly I’d say that’s a stretch. There’s a segment of Christianity that is quite fond of this type of shock and awe type megaphone preaching that has nothing to do with being formerly Muslim.

I’ve seen guys like this outside almost any kind of major gathering from Comic-Cons, to Mega Churches, to College Campuses, to as they say the Las Vegas Strip. And a very vocal subset of these are vehemently anti-Catholic and focus a particular brand of ire toward the Catholic Church (though mainline protestants, Anglicans and anyone they view as different theologically they’ll also attack too). As part of that they’ll even preach at Catholic Churches during mass and actively try to drive/warn parishioners away. I will say, the entering the parish aspect is a new twist I’ve not heard of before, but not an unexpected development either when you consider the hate some of these people have toward Catholicism and the fact many of these newer converts to whatever you want to label this brand of Christianity may not be aware of the laws regarding entering the churches with their protests.


#9

“All are Welcome” is not the same song as “Hit the Road Jack”. We must be ready to defend ourselves and those who are unable to protect themselves!


#10

Clearly these people are mentally ill, and certainly not opposed to assault.


#11

Odd that the police say no crime was committed. Looks like a clear case of trespassing to me.


#12

I hate to say it, but Catholic Churches are going to have to start bringing back the traditional Minor Order of Ostiarius (porters).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostiarius

AKA - guards during Mass.

The “ushers” have taken over part of this job, but we need full blown Ostiarius back in the Churches. They can do the role of usher, but their main job should be protection.

God Bless


#13

I think to say that too quickly absolves such individuals of responsibility for their actions. There’s way too much of that in our society today - finding ways to provide an alibi when someone disrupts, threatens, or assaults others.


#14

Only to anger, or more rarely to a state of laughter.


#15

Probably not. But I’ve seen plenty of people driven away or further away by this style of preaching. And I’ve seen plenty of people converted into comedians by people like this with counter actions.

Stuff like this mainly…

Friend of mine has been counter protesting guys like this when they’re in San Diego the last couple of years and has become decidedly anti-religious in the last few years as well. Not entirely to blame on this type of preaching but it hasn’t helped.


#16

I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if Obama has heard of this happening in his good friend Harry Reid’s state.


#17

I’m not providing an alibi, I say lock em up, either in an asylum for 24-36hrs or jail. Either way lesson learned. No need for charges, if the police cant be bothered to book something minor like tresspass… we can even forgive then for their tresspasses… literally. …after a mental eval


#18

Just waked by these guys on the Las Vegas strip near one of the big casinos. Visiting the ‘Sin’ City for a friends’ birthday and they’re ou on the sidewalks damning everyone to hell.


#19

Parishoners should physically remove them. Sometimes there are lines that cannot be crossed and this is definitely one of them.


#20

I will tell you that a friend of mine who has since died, told me about a time he attended Mass I don’t remember if I was sick or we went a different time or what since normally we went together. He told me though that there was a case of someone during Mass who is disruptive and yelling stuff during the homily and it seems this guy may have had mental problems and he was escorted out of the church. I also recall a man who would regularly worship with us but was not Catholic, this man I remember one Easter Vigil smelled of alcohol. A lot of alcohol. So we were outside the church talking and he was very polite and when I started he was not acting up he was not making a scene. Personally, I think he was in the right place. If he was with us at church then he was not out getting another drink. This might not have to do with this exactly but experiences will vary and I think this is something that we need to remind ourselves. That said if you want to talk about religion could you wait until I’m done worshipping in my house of worship which I have the legal right to do? I’d be more than glad to talk to them


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