Question for Catholic guys only?


#21

Reelguy,

As I have been told, you cannot become strong unless you battle. You seem to have putting up a good fight, keep it up. Think about it, our bodies become stronger when we work out, and that is a struggle.

Your struggle will pay off with a strong understanding of chastity.

God may be preparing you to help others who struggle with similar issues.
Peace


#22

[quote=solarwind23]Medicated? You mean like given drugs to eliminate sexual desire? Chemical castration type of thing?!

Now, that is crazy.
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No. The drugs would be so that I wouldn’t worry about it. Tranquilizers … to make me relax.

[My drug of choice is bourbon; not sure, though, if they’d give me a prescription for that.]


#23

Lol.


#24

[quote=Al Masetti]No. The drugs would be so that I wouldn’t worry about it. Tranquilizers … to make me relax.

[My drug of choice is bourbon; not sure, though, if they’d give me a prescription for that.]
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Wait, you drink bourbon so that you don’t worry about temptations? Am I completely misunderstanding things?

Just how strong are these temptations anyway?


#25

reelguy,

NP.

Despite what some here may believe, your soul will not burn in hell for a few moments of pleasure.

One thing you may want to also consider is why you are asking questions.

If your purpose is to seek truth and understanding then you should be open to all opinions/comments.

If your purpose is to have people tell you what you want to hear then I have just wasted a good post…

Good Luck to you (and another thing you may want to consider is rather than asking middle-aged men questions, going out and meeting some women… your spirit will be all the better for it…)

Ronin


#26

You are human GOD only made us in his LIKENESS not GOD like


#27

[quote=Ronin]reelguy,

NP.

Despite what some here may believe, your soul will not burn in hell for a few moments of pleasure.

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Ronin, I’m not sure that what you are saying is correct. Of course, we want to avoid “Irish Catholic” guilt (myself being a graduate of a Catholic all-boys high school), but perhaps such is necessary for the main message to be not to treat things so lightly. In many cases you can in fact burn in hell for a few moments of pleasure.

Reelguy, you are something really special, because you are only 18 and thinking of things like this, with so much temptation around you. I have prayed that God will carry you through perhaps this most difficult time in a man’s life, insofar as sexual temptation is concerned.


#28

[quote=Ronin]reelguy,

NP.

Despite what some here may believe, your soul will not burn in hell for a few moments of pleasure.

One thing you may want to also consider is why you are asking questions.

If your purpose is to seek truth and understanding then you should be open to all opinions/comments.

If your purpose is to have people tell you what you want to hear then I have just wasted a damn good post…

Good Luck to you (and another thing you may want to consider is rather than asking middle-aged men questions, going out and meeting some women… your spirit will be all the better for it…)

Ronin
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On second thought, having read your post again, I have to warn Reelguy that what you are advocating is wrong. God understands, but don’t flout His rules, man – bad news all around.


#29

If every man or woman( because we can “do it” too) who pleasured them selves or had impure thoughts were to go to hell, someone would have to put up a “No Vacancy” sign.

                     Kathy

#30

CSN,

If so, then what is the purpose of confession?

If one can damn themselves for a “few moments of pleasure” then what is the purpose of living the rest of your life?

My point is that there is a life out there to enjoy, don’t sweat the petty things. We are human, we make mistakes, we sin and sometimes they are whoppers. That is what life is all about.

But, the human spirit is all about taking the blows life gives you (or you give yourself), getting up, wiping the dust off, and jumping back into the fray.

In this particular instance, there is no need for a 18-year old male to put much concern in a few boners.

Life is too short…


Katie,

BINGO!!!


#31

[quote=Ronin]CSN,

If so, then what is the purpose of confession?

If one can damn themselves for a “few moments of pleasure” then what is the purpose of living the rest of your life?

My point is that there is a life out there to enjoy, don’t sweat the petty things. We are human, we make mistakes, we sin and sometimes they are whoppers. That is what life is all about.

But, the human spirit is all about taking the blows life gives you (or you give yourself), getting up, wiping the dust off, and jumping back into the fray.

In this particular instance, there is no need for a 18-year old male to put much concern in a few boners.

Life is too short…


Katie,

BINGO!!!
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Well, I agree with much of what you say --> I thought your few moments of pleasure referred to sex or masturbation. That said, while your “don’t sweat it” advice is appropriate in some cases, particularly for people struggling with scrupulosity, it’s also very dangerous to say in general because it can easily lull people into a false sense of security that we’re doing all right, when in fact, we might not be at all.

“Oh well, God will understand.” “Oh well, what do you expect? I’m only human.”

I see everything as a war, and we must constantly be on our guard against Satan. He’s smart enough not to hit you straight on, but to come as a Trojan horse, or a wolf in sheep’s clothing. And statements like the foregoing can be a slipperly slope, once a person takes them for granted as a matter of course…


#32

“I see everything as a war, and we must constantly be on our guard against Satan.”

That in itself is a problem…

Here is a thought… by living in perpetual paranoia and constantly looking at everyone and everything as a potential enemy are you not following Satan…


#33

[quote=CSN]Well, I agree with much of what you say --> I thought your few moments of pleasure referred to sex or masturbation. That said, while your “don’t sweat it” advice is appropriate in some cases, particularly for people struggling with scrupulosity, it’s also very dangerous to say in general because it can easily lull people into a false sense of security that we’re doing all right, when in fact, we might not be at all.

“Oh well, God will understand.” “Oh well, what do you expect? I’m only human.”

I see everything as a war, and we must constantly be on our guard against Satan. He’s smart enough not to hit you straight on, but to come as a Trojan horse, or a wolf in sheep’s clothing. And statements like the foregoing can be a slipperly slope, once a person takes them for granted as a matter of course…
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Some sins result in irretrievable irreversible consequences… murder, for example, can never be “undone” or be made up for… God may choose to forgive a murderer, but the victim is unlikely to be brought back to life and the family of the victim will likely be traumatized for decades.

Other sins, so-called solitary sins or habitual sins, can be overcome. There may not be much damage to be “undone”, as might be the case in the example above. If part of the sin involves purchase of pornography, then as part of the penance, the money could instead be diverted into a poor box or something similar.

The key is to avoid falling into a state of despair. And to take active measures to overcome the faults and failings. keep going to church. Frequent confession. Get a personal spiritual director. Find some books or activities that keep the mind occupied on other, more wholesome, things.

Keep in mind that although not everyone may be burdened with exactly the same issues, pretty much everyone is burdened with something that makes them crazy and that they would like to change, but have difficulty dealing with.

There is an interesting monthly newsletter, “Scrupulous Anonymous” published by Liguori. Send a note to “Scrupulous Anonymous”, Liguori, MO 63057-9999. It’s free, but include some money to defray the expenses and postage. One of the former directors, Fr. Santa wrote a book, “Understanding Scrupulousity” which you can buy.


#34

[quote=Ronin]“I see everything as a war, and we must constantly be on our guard against Satan.”

That in itself is a problem…

Here is a thought… by living in perpetual paranoia and constantly looking at everyone and everything as a potential enemy are you not following Satan…
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Yes, paranoia would be a problem. Finding the right path is a struggle of finding the right balance. In fact, I said just before, in another thread, that I feel like satan is like some grand judo master who will try to flip us in the direction we are most off balance. So we always have to be careful to keep our balance between things like piety and scrupulosity, fervor and religious pride, and as you just mentioned, vigilance and paranoia.


#35

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