If I’m understanding most of the Muslim posters here they contend that Islam (pure, traditional, etc.) is not violent by nature and those who are aren’t truely Muslim. Am I correct?
If so what does this imply? Let’s assume that this assumption is correct. All violent people who claim the name Islam and claim to follow Allah are not real Muslims and are in fact the enemy of true Islam.
What percentage of those claiming to be Muslims are really not Muslims at all because of their violent behavior? I know that several have shown a penchant for not answering questions but rather make ignore the question and then attack the quesioner. I ask that you please resist this temptation. My question is a serious one.
If in fact those who are violent are not really Muslims how far do you carry that distinction? Was Abu Bakr a true Muslim? Was Muhammad a true Muslim when he oversaw the destruction of the first three Jewish villages before he declared the Dhimma? Did he become a Muslim again after the Dhimma was declared? What of the series of empires that killed and enslaved countless numbers of Christians and Jews? Were the Ummayads and Ottomons truly Muslim or were they actually enemies of Islam? Are the Wahhabists truly Muslim? What about the Sufi Ayatollah Khomeini? Are these examples of true Muslims or are they in fact the enemies of Islam? After eliminating those who aren’t true Muslims who is left?
Schwartz claims that only about 10% of those claiming to be Muslim are actually enemies of Islam, ie, they are actually violent radicals who kill almost anyone who disagrees with them. If this is true, why do they seem to have such widespread support among so many in Islam? Are most who support these violent acts actually unaware that trying to wipe out entire populations of people actually anti-Islamic? Schwartz also claims that 90% of Islam is actually peace loving traditional Muslims. If so, where do the traditional peace loving Muslims live?
- Finally, if you are correct that true Islam is actually only trying to convert the world by peaceful means and that the violent people claiming to be Muslims must be resisted how do you propose doing that? Are there efforts afoot to counteract the terrible and nearly ubiquitous influence of the Wahhabists? Are there efforts afoot to retake Medina and Mecca from these nutballs? If traditional Islam, peace loving to be sure, are making efforts to drive out the Wahhabists and to renounce the violent actions of those claiming to be Muslim but aren’t is there anything than non-Muslims can do to help you do this?
One thing I can think of is to stop buying oil from any country that supports violence and to boycott those nations so they can’t sell oil to anyone else. Would you support that action? What else might we do?
Let’s cut to the chase. I’m quite serious. If you are peace loving and want the truth about peace loving Islam to get out there must be some ways to do this? After all, we don’t wish to be blown to smithereens by these nutballs either. Moreover, I think in a fair exchange of ideas without threats of violence that some wonderful things can happen.