Questions About Revealed Truth


#1

My understanding of revealed truth is that it has 2 sources: Scripture and rulings of the Magisterium? Is that correct?

Also, my understanding is that certain truths, i.e., the Immaculate Conception , have developed , over time and study and prayer, within the Church. If so, does that mean that there MAY be some truths that are still under study by the Church, but have yet to be “certified” as “revealed truth”?

Thank You.


#2

The Deposit of Faith consists in Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture


#3

Thanks…the sacred scripture element I understand. However, I’m not really clear about Sacred Tradition. Some of that is contained in the catechism, but is it also contained elsewhere?

I also want to get back to my original question. That is, is “revealed truth” now complete, or might there be other “truths” that have yet to be revealed by the Spirit through a pope and /or Magisterium?


#4

The following is from the Catechism:

**III. CHRIST JESUS – "MEDIATOR AND FULLNESS OF ALL REVELATION"25

God has said everything in his Word

65 "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son."26 Christ, the Son of God made man, is the Father’s one, perfect and unsurpassable Word. In him he has said everything; there will be no other word than this one. St. John of the Cross, among others, commented strikingly on Hebrews 1:1-2:

In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other), he spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word - and he has no more to say. . . because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty.27
There will be no further Revelation

66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away; and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."28 Yet even if Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit; it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of the centuries.

67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called “private” revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.

Christian faith cannot accept “revelations” that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such “revelations”.
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#5

Some examples of Sacred Tradition would be the sacraments, the liturgy, the councils, the infallible teachings of the ordinary and extraordinary magesterium etc, etc.

The Church can declare a dogma’s but it cant invent them from thin air. This is because the doctrine would have to be a revealed truth that the Church had already known which was elevated to a dogma. The Immaculate Conception is a perfect example. It wasn’t invented. It was a doctrine which could be traced back to the beginning of the Church, which was finally elevated to a dogma.


#6

That is not correct.

The source of revealed truth is God. Revealed truth can be found in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition but those are not it’s sources.

-Tim-


#7

Thanks. I understand That dogma is not created out of thin air. I didn’t mean to imply that the Immaculate Conception was “invented”. However, is it possible that there are other beliefs and/or traditions within the Church which have yet to be elevated (by the Magisterium) to the category of revealed truth?


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