[quote="Sam_777, post:1, topic:304899"]
Quran never mentioned the name "Abram" even in his youth, that was the name "Abraham" used to be called before his migration according to the Bible Genesis 12.
I can't see islam being wrong about Jesus Christ and then suddenly being right about the people and events in the Bible.
I think it is fitting that they would leave out the name change, because a lot in the Abraham cycle foreshadows Jesus Christ and His sacrifice.
But think about it, Abram has his name change to Abraham. "Ab" as in Abba and "raham" as in RHM. They understand RHM but don't understand God as Abba (Father) which is quite sad really.
[quote="Publisher, post:4, topic:304899"]
Since the Quran was written some 1500-2000 years after Abraham, I wouldn't think it would have used "Abram" any ways.....their purpose in mentioning Abraham wasn't to draw attention that he received a new name from Allah, but that Abraham was being referenced.:shrug:
In the koran the reference is there to support islamic views; not because the person (who was mentioned in the scipture first) has a mission from God (a tasks to perform so to speak) that works into the Divine Plan of Salvation that is recorded in the Bible and is taught by the Church.
[quote="MartinJordan, post:11, topic:304899"]
The Quran has no mention of what specifically our Church teaches about Mary. Infact her virginity isn't explained like the Bible does.
So as for me I have no interest at all what the Quran teaches but may use it as a reference of what an incomplete belief is.
Something can be incomplete yet all right for what it is.
I don't see it as an "incomplete belief" but as an "argument" against Judeo-Christianity. The reference are there to add credibility to that argument.