[quote="BroomWagon, post:9, topic:324998"]
The thing about the Redskins logo however that makes it a bit different from other cases is this issue continually resurfaces, it is not like this is one or two people complaining though I agree it may be a minority,
There is precedence in the case of the Redskins logo:
Stanford changed their name to the Cardinals in the same kind of kerfuffle.
North Dakota University has run into the same kind of flack over their mascot as well:
So though I agree SDSU or the Washington NFL team should not change their name, it does seem closer to a sort of epithet as has been used towards say Italians and Irish, not more polite words like "Fighting Irish", "Leperchauns" or the old Toronto ice hockey team, the "Saint Pats".
I think nowadays, Redskins is more associated with the NFL team than its historic context. Words like the "Vikings", "Steelers", "Packers", "Cowboys", "Padres" seem absent of negative connotations.
Be safe, pick an animal, "Jaguars", "Wolves", "Bucs", "Falcons", etc.
But the Redskins controversy returns time again, I love the theme fight song "Hail to the Redskins" written decades ago, perhaps back to the World War II era.
"Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory, Braves on the Warpath, Fight for Old DC".
If only Washington was this way still.
Still, something is to be said, there are other names that don't create controversy, "Running Rebs", "Aggies."
Getting back to the Redskins and how they got their name. They were initially called the Boston Braves (like the NL baseball team in that city). Other NFL cities were naming their teams in similar ways to the baseball teams in town (Detroit Tigers? LIONS! Chicago Cubs? BEARS! New York Giants? New York Giants NFL!).
In Chicago the Cubs and Bears shared Wrigley Field - while the football Cardinals played in the White Sox's Comiskey Park. Loyalties got divided. In Boston the football Braves were renamed to include Red Sox fans loyalties. RED Sox/Braves = Redskins!
The Boston Braves were established in the city in 1932. The team changed its name to the Boston Redskins the following year, but relocated to Washington, D.C. in 1937.
wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_the_Washington_Redskins_get_their_name < some of these Wikianswers details vary in their accounts of WHEN the team became the Redskins (in Boston) here is one version ...
The team was founded in 1932 as the Boston Braves, named after the Boston (Braves) baseball team. At that time it was common for football and baseball teams in the same city to have the same name; examples include the New York Giants, St. Louis Cardinals, and New York Yankees. Amid flagging revenues, both versions of the Boston Braves tried to generate new interest by changing their names. The baseball team changed its name to the Boston Bees (that didn't last long. They went back to being the Boston Braves and later moved to Milwaukee and then Atlanta, where they still play.) In 1933 the football team changed its name to the Boston **Redskins **and in 1937 it moved to Washington
Your final comment on the Running Rebels gave me a smile. I remember a really good
player UNLV got (they were rivals of my school, Cal State Fullerton) in their heydey who
was quoted as saying he liked the way the Tarkanian teams played - but then added
" ... and REBELS! I love that name. I said to myself YEAH! I wanna be a runnin' REBEL!"
He probably meant it in the sense of "unique" or "I do my own thing!" But here he was, a young black player, who loved the name REBELS! And maybe hadn't noticed or cared about the little logo of the Confederate Soldier that was part of the marketing.
I always hoped our Fullerton recruiters would use that to outbid UNLV for some top prospect. Alls fair in recruiting wars! Ah well. Its college baseball time now and my Titans are #4 in the nation. :) And March Madness is a fading memory.