[quote=Polar]I would! I have read lots of literature from atheists, Jehovah’s witnesses, Pentecostals, Lutheran and Catholics. If we are afraid of knowledge, how do we know we have the truth? If what you believe really is the truth, then you shouldn’t be afraid of sceptic’s questions.
Among other things I have read the Book of Mormon and the King James Bible, etc… Read whatever you want. Just remeber, look for the truth if any. The Book of Mormon has virtually no truth in it and is tedious reading at best. The King James Bible does have some truth in it but it also has some missleading interpretations and outright deletions of Scripture.
Think of the Jehovah Witness or Mormon that comes to your door. Do you think they will look at any evidance you have to proove your point? NO! They are outright told and taught not to accept anything outside their own sects writting. Is this fair? Is this brainwashing?
Before you talk to a JW or LDS or Protestant (or Catholic;) ) etc… ask them if they know what the symbol of our judicial system is. Do they know what the statue of Lady Justice looks like? She is blindfolded and stands up with a balanced scale, 1 pan on each side to weigh the evidence. Now if we examine the way JW’s and Mormons and many Protestants examine evidence think of this picture: Lady Justice blindfolded over one eye and a scale with only one pan that allways tips in their favor! Why? Because any evidance not written by their sect is thrown over their shoulder and into the trash while whatever thier sect writes is placed in the only pan left. Is that fair?
I use that analogy often BEFORE I talk to Protestants, JW’s and Mormons now. They allways agree that churches are wrong that don’t weigh out the evidence till I remind them of their own sect doing just that.
The fight between Lutherans and Catholics is disgusting.
You’re right, the Protestants should come home!
The Church really had serious problems at Luther’s time, and with him, it got better.
WRONG! Without him it got better! The reformation was God’s way of cleaning house. He kicked all the garbage out of His Catholic Church, His visible body on earth.
You need to study some history. There was a 'Little Ice Age" that changed the climate in Europe. Rats came into the homes. the Plague killed off 2/3 of Catholic clergy, why? Because they cared for the sick. The Church tries to train more clergy to fill the gap too quickly. Uneducated heritics like Martin Luther are the result. The Church cleans house and gets rid of the heritics. The house cleaning was allready going on before the re/Deformation started. Luther acted on impulse and could not wait or work within the proper sysytem.
The Dogma of the Church was NEVER at issue or a problem. It was what some undertrained clergy taught that was the problem.
Perhaps we need a thread on this topic?
But Luther and his followers went too far. Originally, Luther didn’t want to make a new Church, he wanted reform the Church, make it “clean”. It’s interesting to see that more and more Catholics are recognizing what Luther’s intention really was, and are taking his ideas seriously.
WRONG again! (In part) Name one idea or theological point that Luther changed in the Church that was not allready being discussed before him?
Indulgences for the living? We still have them.
Indulgences for the dead? The Church was allready discussing them and stopped the errant clergy from teaching this wrongfull topic soon after they gave Martin the boot.
The DE/RE-formation wasn’t about theology at all. It was about the princes of Europe taking the wealth away from the Church and putting it into their own pockets. Protestants claim seperation of church and state but look at who had the power in the church after the DE/Re-formation in Protestant sects, it was the royalty. Study the history.
And by the way, even though I’m not Catholic (or anything else - I don’t belong to a church yet) - the Luther-film was an ok film
The movie was OK - just too bias in may ways.