Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., says he will not run for president in 2016

When I was a kid there was something like a ten year wait to get tickets to see Bozo in person.

Did they show the bozo show on cable, or were you local at the time?

Being from Wisconsin, I wonder if Paul Ryan saw these shows as a kid?

:ouch: ** ^ My unfortunate attempt to build a bridge back to the thread I may have derailed with my "one step beyond Garfield (the cat).
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Per Ryan’s future: It would be nice to have a political and financial leader who can count … and has good values. Hope we haven’t seen the last of him. :slight_smile:

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Garfield was not old enough to run for president in 2012, but he is now, and is a Hoosier. That makes him as least as qualified to be president as _________.

I did not fill in the blank out of the tiny bit of respect I still have for our current president. Mickey Mouse has gotten write-in votes in most, if not all, recent elections, so this is not unprecedented. My cat can beat up your mouse any day.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_%28character%29

On the actual subject, we need many more men like Paul Ryan in politics, but cloning is not ethical.

The better of the two parties lost in 2012.

I’m sure going to miss those commercials which show “Paul” pushing Granny off that cliff. :bighanky:

Push baby push. It is time to get people out of the wagon and to start pulling the wagon.

For some reason, I think Ayn Rand and Catholicism do not mix.

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Well, well, surprise, . . . perhaps, just perhaps, he may have become wiser as far as Rand is concerned:

At a 2005 Washington, D.C. gathering celebrating the 100th anniversary of Ayn Rand’s birth,[33][34] Ryan credited Rand as inspiring him to get involved in public service.[35] In a speech that same year at the Atlas Society, he said he grew up reading Rand, and that her books taught him about his value system and beliefs.[36][37] Ryan required staffers and interns in his congressional office to read Rand[37] and gave copies of her novel Atlas Shrugged as gifts to his staff for Christmas.[38][39] In his Atlas Society speech, he also described Social Security as a “socialist-based system”.[40]

In 2009, Ryan said, “What’s unique about what’s happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it’s as if we’re living in an Ayn Rand novel right now. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism, and that morality of capitalism is under assault.”[38]

In April 2012, after receiving criticism from Georgetown University faculty members on his budget plan, Ryan rejected Rand’s philosophy as an atheistic one, saying it “reduces human interactions down to mere contracts”.[41] He also called the reports of his adherence to Rand’s views an “urban legend” and stated that he was deeply influenced by his Roman Catholic faith and by Thomas Aquinas.[42] Yaron Brook, executive director of the Ayn Rand Institute, maintains that Ryan is not a Rand disciple, and that some of his proposals do not follow Rand’s philosophy of limited government; Brook refers to Ryan as a “fiscal moderate”.[43]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Political_philosophy

I just hope he recants from supporting gay adoption:

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*If the above were part of Johnny Carson’s old Karnak routine … the note in the envelope would say “How did Frazier Thomas wake up sleepy detective Beauregard Burnside III?”

He’d lift the ear of the sleeping bloodhound and holler … (that phrase) :slight_smile:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Goose_and_Friends* < A trip down memory lane for old Chicagoans (and Windy City expatriots like me). A tutorial for the rest of you who sadly missed the greatest children’s show in the history of TV. :smiley:

Back to Paul Ryan … even though he’d have had the prestige of being selected as the Party’s VP candidate … and has a profile that is more substance than style (though considerable style too!); he might have had a hard time carving out a niche for himself in the primaries.

Scott Walker from his own state seems similar but has more gravitas per his office and dragonslaying of a nasty machine multiple times. He’s a little like Santorum, but behind him in having a national organization ready to go. His best shot had he run would have been to win the Iowa caucus which now seems crowded.

Some of Romney’s votes from last time might have come to Ryan, but Romney is running. He’s more conservative than moderate … very fiscally conservative … but takes a hit with social conservatives given his puzzling public stand on “gay adoption”.

Probably the right call for Paul.

I was being a little funny when I said he might replace Huckabee on Fox … but as I think about it … he probably will appear on Fox quite a bit as a commentator and potential influence during the GOP campaign. We shall see.

Speaking about the Iowa caucus, has Romney ever won or come close to winning it in his two previous runs for President? I don’t recall that he has. I will concede that Ryan might be a better candidate with regard to style than Romney (it would be challenging to be a worse one); but it’s hard to judge since he has only run for VP, not for President so far. These days, unfortunately, style and charisma matter quite a bit and significantly more than substance. Both the Clintons and Obama had plenty of style during their Presidential bids, and, among the GOP, I would wager Jeb Bush would have it as well. Jindal, on the other hand, seems to lack any style or charisma, while Ryan is a question mark to me, though, from the economic standpoint, he appears to know his numbers quite well.

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Santorum won it in 2012.

BUT there was funny business in Iowa 2012 with one Iowan precinct from a Romney friendly area not reporting on election night - delaying a victory for Santorum that might have boosted his numbers in the New Hampshire primary just days later IMO.

When that precinct reported days later, they gave a partial number that made it look for a time that Romney HAD been the Iowa winner by 8 votes.

Romney won New Hampshire as expected and by the time it was announced that Santorum had won Iowa, Gingrich had won South Carolina to become for a time the leader in delegates. After the final Iowa tally was announced, Santorum became the Romney alternative, so to speak ,and won 10 more primaries despite not having much money to campaign with.

cnn.com/2012/01/19/politics/iowa-caucus/

I will concede that Ryan might be a better candidate with regard to style than Romney (it would be challenging to be a worse one); but it’s hard to judge since he has only run for VP, not for President so far. Per style Ryan is young and energetic looking … and you’re right, most of what people have seen of Ryan was as the VP candidate in ‘12 and maybe the ONE debate versus Joe Biden. Being the GOP point man on Congress’ budget made him a target of sorts, notably the “Nuns on the Bus” group came after him with their campaign (they favored not cutting some of the government programs slated for reduction … and confronted him at his Wisconsin office). Ryan deflected them somewhat, though, and the immediate controversy rather died there.

billmoyers.com/2012/06/20/video-the-nuns-visit-paul-ryans-office/

These days, unfortunately, style and charisma matter quite a bit and significantly more than substance.< Do I ever agree with this statement! Sometimes our national elections seem too much like 7th Grade popularity contests for my taste.

Both the Clintons and Obama had plenty of style during their Presidential bids, and, among the GOP, I would wager Jeb Bush would have it as well. Jindal, on the other hand, seems to lack any style or charisma, while Ryan is a question mark to me, though, from the economic standpoint, he appears to know his numbers quite well. Obama certainly, Bill Clinton also but less so, Hillary only as an accessory to Bill. On her own she comes off with a lot of style negatives (prickly personality more than clothes here, IMO), But the impersonal “style” of being possibly “the first woman President …” works in her favor if she keeps a low profile. But that’s hard to do once a person is THE major party’s candidate.

**Back to Ryan - **before the announcement that newly elected Iowa Senator Joni Ernst had been selected as the GOP speaker to follow Obama’s upcoming State of the Union address - I’d have not been surprised to have seen Ryan as that selection, especially after this “I will not run” announcement. For the GOP, featuring an up and coming female leader as the party’s face for the night - further rebuts any lingering “War on Women” impressions left from the 2012 election … so (IF she does well) Ernst is an understandable pick for that slot even over the well thought of (more substance than style) Ryan.

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Just thinking … now that he’s the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, and with his party having back up (theoretically) in the Senate …

Paul Ryan is one of the most powerful people in the U.S.

Being President would be a promotion. But being just a candidate for President would not.

He controls the purse strings of the nation in a way.

I’m not sure that a move to being Secretary of the Treasury in a new GOP administration would be a promotion either, really.

The one drawback to his current job of course … is having to defend his seat every two years. But Ryan has been doing that quite handily so far.

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