On another string, Mr. Keating offered some opinions on the difficulties with geocentrism and the work of Robert Sungenis. I forwarded them on to Mr. Robert Sungenis of Catholic Apologetics International (Mr. Sungenis is a promoter of geocentrism). Below is Mr. Sungenis’ response to me.
I offer this to open dialogue, to foster honest discussion. While I don’t know nearly enough, I think the topic of faith and science is fascinating, worth a second look…(I don’t pretend to know all, or even most, of the answers…but it seems to me at least that the answers are not so obviously against geocentrism as we have been led to believe…). One would at least have to admit, the Galileo affair has been used and continues to be used to show how the Catholic Church can be dead wrong, even when she says things very publicly, strongly and explicitly…including Her popes. Wouldn’t it be something if our Popes and saints were quite right, after all? Just a thought…
Keating: …Sungenis says the Earth does not rotate on its axis. Instead, every 24 hours all of the stars circle the Earth. Consider the numerical consequences:
R. Sungenis: And I’m in good company, since all the Fathers and the Medievals said the same, and St. Robert Bellarmine, in disputing with Galileo, said that interpretations of Scripture cannot contradict the consensus of the Fathers, and thereby Bellarmine, with the approval of the reigning pope, condemned Galileo and Copernicanism as “opposed to Scripture,” and which decision was confirmed by two other popes, one of which sent his decision to all the papal nuncios and universities of Europe (Urban VIII in 1633) and another of which wrote his decision in a papal bull, Speculatores Domus Israel, (Alexander VII in 1664).
Considering the fact that no subsequent pope has rescinded the condemnation of Copernicanism (but have only allowed it a place of “hypothesis,” which was the original allowance in the decree of 1616 given by Paul V), then I would say I’m in good company.
In fact, the 1616 declaration specified the condemnation of the diurnal motion of the Earth, that is, both the revolution of the Earth and its rotation as being “opposed to Scripture.”
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