Reverand?


#1

Why do so many priests use the title Reverend before their name in print on bulletins and stuff? I thought they were supposed to use the title Father? In my mind, I tend to associate the title reverend with anglicanism and other protestant denominational titles. It still confuses me to see this so often in print when I’m looking over bulletins and news articles. Is there a reasonable explaination why this title is preferred by so many priests in the Catholic Church over the title Father?

Peace and all good,

Thomas2 :slight_smile:


#2

[quote=Thomas2]Why do so many priests use the title Reverend before their name in print on bulletins and stuff? I thought they were supposed to use the title Father? In my mind, I tend to associate the title reverend with anglicanism and other protestant denominational titles. It still confuses me to see this so often in print when I’m looking over bulletins and news articles. Is there a reasonable explaination why this title is preferred by so many priests in the Catholic Church over the title Father?

Peace and all good,

Thomas2 :slight_smile:
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Reverand is their official title, Father is a title of affection.


#3

[quote=Apologia100]Reverand is their official title, Father is a title of affection.
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I think it’s also to be more ecumenical, it makes clergy more equal to one another. You know the old Protestant objection of calling the Catholic priest “Father”. I have also noticed that more and more Protestant ministers are now wearing “Roman” collars? Go figure that one out?
Protestant ministers are simply glorified LAY ministers!


#4

I’ve seen some use the title “Reverend Father”.


#5

“The Reverend” is used in formal correspondence, and as far as I know, it has always been that way (at least it has been my entire life). Archbishops are “The Most Reverend.”

'thann


#6

[quote=Br. Rich SFO]I think it’s also to be more ecumenical, it makes clergy more equal to one another. You know the old Protestant objection of calling the Catholic priest “Father”. I have also noticed that more and more Protestant ministers are now wearing “Roman” collars? Go figure that one out?
Protestant ministers are simply glorified LAY ministers!
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Protestant minister is not even a minister. They’re not even part of the royal priesthood like the faitfhul of the Catholic Church.


#7

The title Reverand is the proper and historic title. “Father” for diocesan priests is a modern innovation promoted by Cardinal Manning of Westminster. Its a very good innovation, in my mind, but a modern innovation nevertheless.

Isn’t it interesting that for so many “tradition” means whatever they were familiar with in the 1950’s?

Ever notice the great respect and dignity which the Holy Father always offers to visiting clergy from other Christian commmunities and his insistance that they be included and respected when he visits various places.

God bless our Holy Father, apostle of ecumenism.


#8

Protestant minister is not even a minister. They’re not even part of the royal priesthood like the faitfhul of the Catholic Church.

Beng,

All Christians share in the royal priesthood of Christ at the time of baptism, and that includes the Protesters/Protestants (I don’t know why until now they are still protesting? :confused: :slight_smile: ).

Ordained priests in the Catholic Church, however, shares in the unique priesthood of Christ in that they act “in persona Christi” and can validly confect the Eucharist and administer all the 7 Sacraments.

Pio


#9

[quote=hlgomez]Beng,

All Christians share in the royal priesthood of Christ at the time of baptism, and that includes the Protesters/Protestants (I don’t know why until now they are still protesting? :confused: :slight_smile: ).

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When they left the Church after baptism they forfeit that priviledge.


#10

[quote=Thomas2]Why do so many priests use the title Reverend before their name in print on bulletins and stuff?
Thomas2 :slight_smile:
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It is standard journalistic style (as per AP) to use “Rev. __” as the title of any minister/priest of any church referred to in print (The New York Times is an exception). You have the copy editors to blame, not the priests, most of whom seem to distain it.


#11

I have also noticed that more and more Protestant ministers are now wearing “Roman” collars? Go figure that one out?
Protestant ministers are simply glorified LAY ministers!

This bugs me to no end. Why are these ministers trying to “free-ride” on the respect accorded to the ministers of the very institution they’re protesting against? I don’t mind if Protestant ministers want to have some kind of distinguishing feature in their outward appearance, but why shouldn’t I be able to tell who I can call “Father” without risking offense and embarrassment? Even though I don’t have that particular problem in their case, I feel like the worst is when women minister wear a Roman collar. Again, I understand that as Protestant ministers they’re not really “pretending to be priests” and so being female shouldn’t necessarily exclude them from the ministry, but if they’re not supposed to be priests then why are they dressing like priests? It actually feels rather threatening to me-- like I’d better watch out 'cause if this woman finds out I’m a faithful Catholic she’s gonna attack me or something. I guess that’s because Protestants and women wearing the Roman collar comes across as an attack against the Church-- as if they’re somehow saying that Protestant ministers are really no different from priests, and that women should be able to be priests, too.


#12

When they left the Church after baptism they forfeit that priviledge.

I don’t know about the theological validity of that argument, but as a practical matter, how many current Protestants actually left the Church? Most of them were never Catholic to begin with-- although they have been baptized (into other churches), so if we’re say they’re not “in” the Church we can be speaking only in the strictest sense.


#13

[quote=beng]Protestant minister is not even a minister. They’re not even part of the royal priesthood like the faitfhul of the Catholic Church.
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Minister (one who ministers or helps others)

Minister does not equal Roman Catholic clergy.

With the changing of the law (Mosaic to Law of the Spirit) comes a changing of the levitical priesthood to the priesthood of all believers, with Christ as High Priest.

Such smugness is one of the seven deadly sins, “pride”.


#14

[quote=patricius]This bugs me to no end. Why are these ministers trying to “free-ride” on the respect accorded to the ministers of the very institution they’re protesting against? I don’t mind if Protestant ministers want to have some kind of distinguishing feature in their outward appearance, but why shouldn’t I be able to tell who I can call “Father” without risking offense and embarrassment? Even though I don’t have that particular problem in their case, I feel like the worst is when women minister wear a Roman collar. Again, I understand that as Protestant ministers they’re not really “pretending to be priests” and so being female shouldn’t necessarily exclude them from the ministry, but if they’re not supposed to be priests then why are they dressing like priests? It actually feels rather threatening to me-- like I’d better watch out 'cause if this woman finds out I’m a faithful Catholic she’s gonna attack me or something. I guess that’s because Protestants and women wearing the Roman collar comes across as an attack against the Church-- as if they’re somehow saying that Protestant ministers are really no different from priests, and that women should be able to be priests, too.
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I personally agree that the Roman collar should not be worn by protestants. There should be a clear visual on who is Catholic and who is protestant. But, this only bothers me from an identity standpoint.


#15

[quote=ahimsaman72]Minister (one who ministers or helps others)

Minister does not equal Roman Catholic clergy.

With the changing of the law (Mosaic to Law of the Spirit) comes a changing of the levitical priesthood to the priesthood of all believers, with Christ as High Priest.

Such smugness is one of the seven deadly sins, “pride”.
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Actually, the role of the Deacon in the Catholic Church equates to the role of the “Minister” in a Protestant congregation. The Deacon is the “Minister of the Word and of the Table” and his primary duties include preaching the Gospel and assisting the celebrant in the preparation and distribution of the Sacred host.


#16

Please excuse me, but after reading posts on the thread about Protestants and the Roman Collar I thought of this senario.

An eight year old Catholic sees a female Protestant minister wearing a Roman Collar with a black dress in a grocery store and asks," Father, I lost my mom in here, have you seen a woman wearing a green dress some where?" :whacky:


#17

A rose by anyother name would… wait a minute, what was the question…? :smiley: :whacky:


#18

[quote=beng]Protestant minister is not even a minister. They’re not even part of the royal priesthood like the faitfhul of the Catholic Church.
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Hi beng! :wave:

Are you a Catholic who rejects everything after VII? Some of your posts are making me think that you are. Set me straight.

In Christ,
Nancy :slight_smile:


#19

A priest in never referred to as Reverend X. He may be referred to as the Reverend X.


#20

[quote=Benedictus]A priest in never referred to as Reverend X. He may be referred to as the Reverend X.
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Malcolm X was a Catholic priest? I thought he was an American muslim?


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