Role of Bishops


#1

“The title of bishop is one of service, not of honor, and therefore a bishop should strive to benefit others rather than to lord it over them. Such is the precept of the Master,” he said, quoting the Rite of Ordination of a Bishop.

“Considered within a properly theological context, ‘power of governance’ emerges as something more than mere ‘administration’ or the exercise of organizational skills,” the Pope added. “It is a means for building up the Kingdom of God.”

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Is this a basis of a model of primacy that would be acceptable to the EO?


#2

[quote=JGC]“The title of bishop is one of service, not of honor, and therefore a bishop should strive to benefit others rather than to lord it over them. Such is the precept of the Master,” he said, quoting the Rite of Ordination of a Bishop.

“Considered within a properly theological context, ‘power of governance’ emerges as something more than mere ‘administration’ or the exercise of organizational skills,” the Pope added. “It is a means for building up the Kingdom of God.”

zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=60111

Is this a basis of a model of primacy that would be acceptable to the EO?
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Not while it has to be understood in context of CCC 882/3 etc.

Pope John Paul II has clearly rejected his own ordination vows if his was this:

“The title of bishop is one of service, not of honor, and therefore a bishop should strive to benefit others rather than to lord it over them. Such is the precept of the Master,” he said, quoting the Rite of Ordination of a Bishop."

He now claims he has supreme, unhindered authority over the Church… :slight_smile:

Also, generally, the ‘powers’ of a bishop assumed and exercised in the RCPC is not acceptable to the Orthodox, which doesn’t have the split created between clergy and laity as you have it.

Your bishops are the only ones with authority to rule, teach etc. the ‘laity’, that just doesn’t make sense in context of our liturgy.

For example,

CLERGY AND LAITY

The emphasis on communion and fellowship, as the basic principle of church life, inhibited the development of clericalism. The early Christian practice of having the laity participate in episcopal elections never disappeared completely in the East. In modern times, it has been restored in several churches. The Moscow Council of 1917-1918 introduced it in Russia, even if the events of the Revolution prevented its full implementation. Bishops are also elected by clergy-laity conventions in America and in other areas of the Orthodox world.

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Besides being admitted, at least in some areas, to participation in episcopal elections, Orthodox laymen often occupy positions in church administration and in theological education. In Greece almost all professional theologians are laymen. Laymen also frequently serve as preachers.

orthodoxinfo.com/general/doctrine2.aspx


#3

[quote=JGC]“The title of bishop is one of service, not of honor, and therefore a bishop should strive to benefit others rather than to lord it over them. Such is the precept of the Master,” he said, quoting the Rite of Ordination of a Bishop…

Is this a basis of a model of primacy that would be acceptable to the EO?
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Whether or not the Orthodox are keen on the Pope’s claims, I know that a lot of us Americans are cheering him on. :wink:


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