Rolling Stone loses faith in UVA rape story


#1

USA Today Rolling Stone*magazine said Friday it found discrepancies in its controversial story about an alleged gang rape at the University of Virginia and had lost faith in the piece, a shocking retreat coming merely days after author Sabrina Rubin Erdely defended the reporting.

“In the face of new information, there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie’s account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced,” wrote Will Dana, the magazine’s managing editor said on its website.

“We were trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault and now regret the decision to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account,” the post said. “We are taking this seriously and apologize to anyone who was affected by the story.”

According to*Rolling Stone, she spent months talking to Jackie, her friends and university officials. But Erdely never spoke to the accused, “Drew” and other men at Phi Kappa


#2

From The Washington Post:

A group of Jackie’s close friends, who are sex assault awareness advocates at U-Va., said they believe something traumatic happened to Jackie but also have come to doubt her account. They said details have changed over time, and they have not been able to verify key points of the story in recent days. A name of an alleged attacker that Jackie provided to them for the first time this week, for example, turned out to be similar to the name of a student who belongs to a different fraternity, and no one by that name has been a member of Phi Kappa Psi.


#3

They should never have run that story without contacting the supposed witnesses for corroboration.


#4

It was irresponsible to run with that story. But that’s what I’ve come to expect from the media


#5

Salem needs to reign in its witches.

Nancy Grace/Duke Lacrosse. John Stewart.

youtube.com/watch?v=FfrFz-Ogypw

Rape hysteria.


#6

There’s a Politico article by an editor of the UVA campus paper saying that “Jackie’s” allegations “sounded” true, i.e., that no one would be surprised if it really did happen.

I suspect (just a guess) us that “Jackie” was raped at some point but then embellished what happened to make it a perfect storm. It has all the elements; multiple assailants at a frat house as part of an initiation.


#7

From the Politico article linked above:*“These events undoubtedly do occur here,” first-year Maddie Rita told me. *This quote is kind of a microcosm for the reporting. There is just this sentiment that this “undoubtedly” occurs, so why fact check? Other male students have been found guilty of sexual assault so why give this guy the benefit of the doubt?

Then the author of the article cites this bomb:*The University of Virginia — like most American universities — has a problem with rape. Current estimates, cited earlier this year by Vice President Joe Biden, hold that one in five women will be sexually assaulted while in college.*There it is again. It’s like a UFO sighting, except it’s much more frequent. The whole 20% of college women are sexually assaulted charge. But that statistic is ultimately a fabrication.

At the end of the day, it seems the Obama Administration’s “1 in 5 statistic” influenced people like the journalists at UVA into assuming no scrutiny of an accusation was necessary. After all, doesn’t it “ring true” with the 20% stat?

The government and its media accomplices have created a fictional attitude toward males that there are enough sexual predators out there that 1 in 5 college women are sexually assaulted. This fiction has permeated the minds of the naive. In turn, that leads to “cry wolf” type stories like this one and confusion among people who don’t understand why their observation doesn’t coincide with the “shocking” statistic. So now the real tragedy is that this hurts women who do have an assault story to tell.


#8

The rape stats are 1 in 5 or 1 in 4. They are all over the map. Another point, they have expanded the definition of rape to include the two drunk student scenario where drunk female consents to drunk male then she has regrets the next day. Technically this is rape on college campuses. Truth being they do not derive their stats from reported or actual rapes. Their methods more dubious. From my old college.

umdstatesman.wp.d.umn.edu/2012/08/29/surveys-reveal-big-gap-in-sexual-assault-reporting-at-umd/

3 reported rapes in three years.

I did ask a female who recently graduated and she said the one in five is feasible if the drunk scenario is included.

The frat house was vandalized the day after the Rolling Stone article went out

wtvr.com/2014/11/20/university-of-virginia-fraternity-vandalized/

Frat houses are generally targets for vicious rumors. Gang rapes as initiation, usually by white males, Cooking and eating cats, things like that. Then there is anonymous posting of names of supposed rapists. So some guy gets his name anonymously posted somewhere and is an outcast as a result. There is just a lot of shenanigans going on behind the scene. A substantial amount of hostility towards white males on college campuses along with a presumption of guilt which is shameful. Look at jezebul.com.


#9

Jackie Coakley Exposed As Rolling Stone’s UVA Rape Story Source By Conservative Blogger Charles C. Johnson?

inquisitr.com/1661834/jackie-coakley-exposed-as-rolling-stones-uva-rape-story-source-by-conservative-blogger-charles-c-johnson/


#10

politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/why-we-believed-jackies-story-113365.html?hp=t1_r#.VISdhMnYiXa

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Ultimately, though, from where I sit in Charlottesville, to let fact checking define the narrative would be a huge mistake**

Wow. That’s from an assistant managing editor at The Cavalier Daily, the University of Virginia’s student newspaper. Facts don’t matter; only the narrative does.


#11

It’s like living in the Twilight Zone.


#12

bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5111

No statistically significant change was detected in the rate of serious violent crime (rape or sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault) from 2012 to 2013 (7.3 per 1,000).


#13

New details in William Paterson gang rape allegations: Men blocked door during violent attack

nj.com/passaic-county/index.ssf/2014/12/william_paterson_students_gang-raped_student_criminal_complaint_claims.html

Ramapo College students charged with raping female classmate

cliffviewpilot.com/ramapo-college-students-charged-with-raping-female-classmate/


#14

And this relates to the false allegations at UV because?


#15

In these two cases the alleged victims went to the police. They did not wait years after the fact. So it sounds more legit. as opposed to the Dunham and UV cases.

redstate.com/2014/12/10/lena-dunhams-narcissism-hurt-rape-victims/


#16

:shrug:

Good point


#17

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