Russian treason bill targets Kremlin critics

The conversion of Russia needs to take place!

Premier Putin introduced a bill that would give the governement police power, just like the U.S.S.R.!

Associated Press article

Our Lady at Fatima told us to pray, PRAY !!!

Hmmm. Well, on the bright side, 20 years in prison is better than being poisoned! How long, Lord, how long?

To clarify what this thread is about, here are the first two paragraphs of the article:

New legislation backed by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would allow Russian authorities to label any government critic a traitor—a move that rights activists said Wednesday was a chilling throwback to times of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.

The bill, which is expected to become law, would expanded the definition of treason to include damaging Russia’s constitutional order, sovereignty or territorial integrity. That, rights activists said, would essentially let authorities interpret any act against state as treason—a crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

I agree that is a disturbing development. However, there have been totalitarian governments in western Catholic countries also, so I’m not sure conversion to western Catholicism will automatically turn Russia into a democracy. There is already a significant Catholic presence in Russia, and most of the rest of the country is Orthodox.

Wasn’t Franco Opus Dei?

That’s messed up…

Does this include only Russia’s citizens though or anyone who speaks out negatively about their gov.?

Robertsxxx, the bill isn’t finalized yet so it is hard to say.

But it remains unclear if the bill will pass Parliament in its current form and, even then, whether and how the government would employ the rules — to crack down on dissent or merely as a warning to opponents not to go too far.

nytimes.com/2008/12/21/world/europe/21russia.html?em

Russia has only ever been ruled by tyrants. They don’t know anything else. I firmly believe that this little democratic hiatus is just that–a short interval before the installation of Tsar Vladimir or some other such vlast’.

DaveBj (MA, Soviet/East Eur Studies, 1985)

No. Opus Dei did cooperate in weeding out communists and socialists and many Franco Administration officials were part of Opus Dei, but Franco was most certainly NOT a member of Opus Dei. In 1973(?) (I cannot believe I actually remember his name) Franco approved of the assassination of Admiral (General?) Blanco who was effectively ruling Spain. The Church and Opus Dei officials publicly criticized Franco and that effectively ended any influence Opus Dei had in the Spanish government.

But that is off topic. Let’s return to Russia.

To think that Catholic and Orthodox influence in Russia is enough to help guide this country is nothing short of folly. After 80 years of atheistic rule, both churches have only limited influence on the broader social and political environment.

Thanks! He was devoutly religious though, was he not?

I noticed Putin made a recent reconversion to the orthodox church :rolleyes:

That is insane!!!

Not from Putin’s point of view, it isn’t.

What does the Church say about this? Isn’t it a sin to harm the reputation of your own country? Why not make it illegal?

“Devoutly religious” and “arranging assassinations” are mutually exclusive states of being.

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