saints

Let’s say a parish has a patron saint, the diocese another and the religious order of the Priest in the parish has another patron saint. If these three saints fall on the same day which saint’s feastday is to be celebrated? Would that be a day of fasting during Lent?
Which feastday should the parishioner celebrate when saying the Divine Office at home?
Maybe the Ordinary and Extraordinary form would give different answers concerning this.

We celebrate the feast designated in the liturgical calendar of the Universal Church, not that of an individual parish, religious order, or private patron saint of a priest. He will always commemorate the Saint of the Day in the Roman Missal.

Would that be a day of fasting during Lent?
No, since the only fast days of obligation are Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Maybe you meant to say “abstinence” and if so, then all Fridays in lent are days of abstinence, except for “solemnities” such as St. Joseph if it falls on a Friday; in that case, abstinence is dispensed.

Which feastday should the parishioner celebrate when saying the Divine Office at home?
Again, the saint of the day in the Roman Missal. The difference here, is that the person praying does not have to pray the fullness of that saint’s feast day, as in the “Commons” unless it is a Church or Order specifically dedicated to that saint.

For instance, I am a Carmelite, and we have a more detailed Office for our patron saints of the Order, yet the Divine Office treats these days as ordinary memorials without any further fanfare (to use a mundane expression).

Only the universal? What does that mean?

It means the Catholic Church throughout the world, not just our particular nation. The beauty of this is that no matter where you go, we all celebrate the same liturgy of the saint for the day. There are a few exceptions with major feast days, such as Epiphany or Ascension, that the local Bishop may transfer to a different day, but saints are celebrated rather universally.

Hello,

The parish patron would take precedence, unless the diocesan patron had a rank of solemnity throughout the entire Church. I don’t know when there would be that conflict but if there was, the universal solemnity would be celebrated.

Sometimes, the parish patron will not be on the calendar. For example, St. Christopher. He’s not on the calendar anymore but there are lots of St. Christopher parishes. According to the Roman Martyrology (a book with which includes ALL the saints, and their feast days) the feast day would be July 25. St. Christopher’s parish would celebrate his solemnity even though he is not listed on the universal calendar–St. James the Greater is.

For members of religious orders and their patrons/founders: I’m not sure what would happen if that coincided with the parish patron. These two solemnities are of equal rank so maybe it would be possible to celebrate either one. For the laity of a parish, however, you’d observe the parish patron.

For reference, see here at p. 13: liturgyoffice.org.uk/Calendar/Info/GNLY.pdf

You are looking at observances in number 4 and 8.

Dan

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