Someone posted a fundamentalist view of salvation in another post, but everyone missed the errors in the first few verses. And it degenerated into a shouting match in the way of speaking. I would like to discuss this fundamentalist view
which I have heard often before in a more direct answer to the points made.
First, Catholic Church teachings originated with Jesus, who taught EVERYTHING to his apostles and who handed down EVERYTHING through His Church. So no Catholic Church teaching began with interpretation of scripture, they all came directly from Jesus. Thus, the Church interprets scripture according to these teachings that have been handed down.
**"ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? “
The Church teaches that since ONLY Jesus can judge us, and we can’t judge ourselves, we cannot be 100% sure where we will go. The bible is a witness to this teaching.
"I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.”
Notice he says his conscience is clear. That means he does believe he is in mortal sin. In the same way, if we know we are not in mortal sin, than we can be reasonably sure we can go to heaven, but not 100% sure, because we cannot judge ourselves. It is Jesus who judges.
But, of course, we must constantly do penance, pray and obey. St. Paul writes
1 Corinthians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Thus, he knew he could easily loose his salvation if he did not do mortification.
The Church teaches that the only way we can know for 100% that we will go to heaven is if God gives us some private revaltion that this will be the case.
Here is some more he posted.
** THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:
- REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:
Ro 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Ro 3:10 “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” **
Actually the bible also calls many people righteous, for example, Joseph, Elizabeth and Zacahria and many others.
Roman 3:10 was referring to the Jewish nation as a whole, not individuals.
**"This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
- BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL. ** "
This again is far out. According to this view, everyone ended up in hell til Jesus came.
Jesus did not come to give us a chance not to go to hell. After all, Moses and Elias were not in hell. Lazarus was not in hell. The Church teaches and made it clear that unless a person either rejected God or died in mortal sin, they would not end up in hell. They would end up in limbo, not hell. And, after Jesus died and rose, then those in limbo would enter heaven.
Jesus came to free us from our sins in this life, so we could live a fairly happy and a holy life and free us from original sin, so that when we died, we could go to heaven, not just limbo, and be in union with God forever.