Scientists create animals that are part-human!

RENO, Nev. - On a farm about six miles outside this gambling town, Jason Chamberlain looks over a flock of about 50 smelly sheep, many of them possessing partially human livers, hearts, brains and other organs.

The University of Nevada-Reno researcher talks matter-of-factly about his plans to euthanize one of the pregnant sheep in a nearby lab. He can’t wait to examine the effects of the human cells he had injected into the fetus’ brain about two months ago.

“It’s mice on a large scale,” Chamberlain says with a shrug.

As strange as his work may sound, it falls firmly within the new ethics guidelines the influential National Academies issued this past week for stem cell research.

In fact, the Academies’ report endorses research that co-mingles human and animal tissue as vital to ensuring that experimental drugs and new tissue replacement therapies are safe for people.

Doctors have transplanted pig valves into human hearts for years, and scientists have injected human cells into lab animals for even longer.

Biological mixing of species
But the biological co-mingling of animal and human is now evolving into even more exotic and unsettling mixes of species, evoking the Greek myth of the monstrous chimera, which was part lion, part goat and part serpent.

In the past two years, scientists have created pigs with human blood, fused rabbit eggs with human DNA and injected human stem cells to make paralyzed mice walk.

Particularly worrisome to some scientists are the nightmare scenarios that could arise from the mixing of brain cells: What if a human mind somehow got trapped inside a sheep’s head?

The “idea that human neuronal cells might participate in ‘higher order’ brain functions in a nonhuman animal, however unlikely that may be, raises concerns that need to be considered,” the academies report warned.

Mice with human brains
In January, an informal ethics committee at Stanford University endorsed a proposal to create mice with brains nearly completely made of human brain cells…

Full article here:
msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252

THIS IS UTTER GARBAGE!!! WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND, THIS IS GETTING WAY OUT OF HAND! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:bigyikes: :bigyikes: :bigyikes:

Actually, this is moral per the Church.

Here is the relevant Vatican document pertaining to the use of animals for transplant purposes, including the insertion of human genetics to make them more compatable.

vatican.va/roman_curia/p…thical%20Issues

Generally speaking, Catholic doctrine defines a human by it’s soul, not by it’s genetics. Gene just decscribe what our body looks like and how it operates, not where it is human or not. That depends on the existance of a rational soul

Copore et Anima Unis

I submitted a dubium to the Vatican in relation to another thread about human genes in plants.

Here is where I posted the reponse from the Vatican

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=54908

Human brians in aminals can not be morally acceptable

[quote=Tyler Smedley]Human brians in aminals can not be morally acceptable
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Human brains in aminals are not possible.

No one is transplanting a human brain into an animal – merely some genetic material.

You and I were both vaccinated – injected with genetic material from viruses – were we not? Did that make us viruses?

The fellow in charge isn’t Dr. Moreau by chance?

[quote=Richardols]The fellow in charge isn’t Dr. Moreau by chance?
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Shhhh . . . don’t give the game away.http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Baaaaad!!

[quote=Tyler Smedley]RENO, Nev. - On a farm about six miles outside this gambling town, Jason Chamberlain looks over a flock of about 50 smelly sheep, many of them possessing partially human livers, hearts, brains and other organs.

The University of Nevada-Reno researcher talks matter-of-factly about his plans to euthanize one of the pregnant sheep in a nearby lab. He can?t wait to examine the effects of the human cells he had injected into the fetus? brain about two months ago.

?It?s mice on a large scale,? Chamberlain says with a shrug.

As strange as his work may sound, it falls firmly within the new ethics guidelines the influential National Academies issued this past week for stem cell research.

In fact, the Academies? report endorses research that co-mingles human and animal tissue as vital to ensuring that experimental drugs and new tissue replacement therapies are safe for people.

Doctors have transplanted pig valves into human hearts for years, and scientists have injected human cells into lab animals for even longer.

Biological mixing of species
But the biological co-mingling of animal and human is now evolving into even more exotic and unsettling mixes of species, evoking the Greek myth of the monstrous chimera, which was part lion, part goat and part serpent.

In the past two years, scientists have created pigs with human blood, fused rabbit eggs with human DNA and injected human stem cells to make paralyzed mice walk.

Particularly worrisome to some scientists are the nightmare scenarios that could arise from the mixing of brain cells: What if a human mind somehow got trapped inside a sheep?s head?

The ?idea that human neuronal cells might participate in ‘higher order’ brain functions in a nonhuman animal, however unlikely that may be, raises concerns that need to be considered,? the academies report warned.

Mice with human brains
In January, an informal ethics committee at Stanford University endorsed a proposal to create mice with brains nearly completely made of human brain cells…

Full article here:
msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252
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[quote=Tyler Smedley]Human brians in aminals can not be morally acceptable
[/quote]

The Vatican article does address that the use of human nuerons in animals is unacceptable, but other genetic engineering is moral (using human genes to create human compatible organs for transplant or human transfusable blood.)

For example, this part

In the past two years, scientists have created pigs with human blood, fused rabbit eggs with human DNA and injected human stem cells to make paralyzed mice walk.

As long as the stem cells used are Adult or Umbilical Stem cells, this is perfectly OK with the Church. If they are Embryonic Stem Cells, the act of obtaining the stem cells renders the process immoral and unacceptable. The article is unclear as to which ones are being used.

And having a human mind in a sheep in ontologically an oxymoron.

A human mind is one that is animated by a Rational Soul. A Rational Soul is a direct creation of God and is nothing a human could create. We cannot engineer conscience though.

Ontologically, if there is a human mind present, by definition the creature is human and is so because God chose to do so by Active Will.

[quote=Tyler Smedley]Human brians in aminals can not be morally acceptable
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the brain is just a tool we use.
we/us are just a little sparkle.
how many of us can you fit on the head of a pin???

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