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I'm not sure how to address the original post, in general. I think one has to slow the Protestants down and try to discuss a verse at a time.
We can only sow the seed of the gospel, it is God who brings his word back in abundance. We must avoid the sin of pride, in the first place, and then let God do one of the things he does best.
Blush: how can you argue with the Bible, itself? Yes, scripture does a lot of ripping things out of context, whenever it wants to. No one can deny that. The other criticism (Jewish origin) related to that, is that the NT spiritualizes the prophecies of the OT. For example, Jesus teaches that his kingdom is not of this world -- which is not exactly what the Jews were expecting.
In a more general sense, the Jews were supposed to be a kingdom of priests, a light for all other nations. I think they have become that only in the Christian interpretation, where those baptized into Christ, Jews and Gentiles alike, are a nation of priests for all the world. The NT in general, and parts of Romans in particular, are the apologetic addressed to Jews.
Back to talking to Protestants: you're always on the slippery slope of private interpretation, where you are conversing with people who actively resist an authoritative interpretation of scripture. In my case, talking to my evangelical cousin, she says that in the final judgment, it doesn't matter what church you belong to. Really? I thought Jesus said "upon this rock I will build my church" -- *not churches *-- so there is really only one true church -- and I hasten to add that you must belong to it, as far as I can tell. It seems that a Bible Christian should want to belong to it. (Alternately, alas, we must ignore those words of Christ, I guess. I always keep asking people which verses I'm supposed to tear out of my Bible. I never get a response, by the way.)
I would also like to add something to what you said. The third most predominant religion in my country is "non-denominationalism". I always filled out my countries census with religion "Christian". That is because as far as I was concerned denominationism is not what God wants. The thing that kept me away from the Catholic church was premillenialism, the Plan A God's focus is Israel, but because they rejected Jesus as Messiah, God switched to Plan B, a parenthesis in history. That is what I had to overcome in order to consider the Catholic Church because I finally found that there was no Plan B, there only ever was a Plan A, and that Jesus Christ is King on the throne of David right now, and the kingdom is real right now, and therefore there can only be one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and ... ooohhhh.
If all those non-denominational believers are anything like me, the only thing they need to overcome is the concept of what constitutes God's kingdom. Then the harvest is ripe for the Catholic Church.