Sebelius sorry for healthcare.gov 'debacle'


#1

chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-healthcare-website-20131030,0,1315422.story

Sebellius

Interesting article. Went beyond the immediate news and compared the rocky start of “Obamacare” to a similar beginning for Massachusetts’ “Romneycare” some years back.

While the same article here calls the latter program “popular”, Romney nonetheless was soundly beaten in the state he once governed in the 2012 Presidential election.

Speaking on Capitol Hill, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius apologized for the botched rollout of the Healthcare.gov website and vowed to win back* the confidence of millions of disappointed Americans.

“Hold me accountable for the debacle. I’m responsible,” Sebelius told the House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee.

**** in above quote, my emphasis*** Win back the confidence? I was confident she’d do anything in her power (which she so far always seems to get MORE of) to keep little 11 year old Sarah Murnehan from getting the lung transplant she needed … to live (because the available donated lungs were adult lungs … for people over 12 … even if Sarah had waited longer on the donor recipient list and her doctors (correctly!) predicted they could do the operation and save Sarah’s life).

nbcnews.com/health/nice-long-life-11-year-old-lung-transplant-patient-home-8C11003394 < Sarah Murnehan, home, recovering with successfully transplanted lungs – and for the first time in 2 1/2 years, off 24 hour oxygen treatment.

OH the dedication Ms. Sebellius had in martialling her legal forces and making the girls family apply, plead, and finally have to sue on behalf of Sarah. THIS was her priority while the administration’s mysterious new America transforming megaprogram was not being prepped for its October 1, 2013 rollout?! She was “sorry Murnehans, that shall not be done” then. She is “sorry America” that her job isn’t done now. As usual, someone else suffers more than she. < Her main consistency since her “health care” breakout days of playing goalie for the abortion industry as Kansas Governor (and loudly public “pro-choice Catholic leader” come to think of it). IMO.

Going to the overall program and the HHS Secretary’s boss(es?) … this new apology tour
will likely still wind UP with another “I’m sorry”.

“I’m sorry you were unable to secure your new mandatory health care plan by the deadline. You will still have to pay the fine for late filing. Please remit.” < Something like this. :mad:

cnn.com/2013/10/24/politics/congress-obamacare-website/

(Excerpts) The White House has pushed back against Republicans and some Democrats who have urged

– an extension of the open enrollment period beyond March 31

– and/or a*** delay in penalties*** for those who don’t sign up for insurance on time because of the website issues.

The Obama administration is moving to clarify confusion on when people need to sign up for health care, and it has plans to issue new guidelines to this point soon.

Still, Health and Human Services spokeswoman Joanne Peters insisted “the individual mandate timing” – i.e. the requirement for a person to have insurance by March – “has not changed. … It was true this morning. It is true tonight.”

Pelosi pushes back on extending Obamacare deadline

And who gets all that “fine” money? Where will IT go … or come to? This might be a quite convenient “oversight” and “debacle” if this new revenue stream goes to an invisible slush fund or to a “friendly” bank the administration works well with. :hmmm:


#2

Where is her apology for supporting contraception, abortion, and destroying the religious freedom of her fellow Catholics?


#3

[quote="Elizium23, post:2, topic:343660"]
Where is her apology for supporting contraception, abortion, and destroying the religious freedom of her fellow Catholics?

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crickets.

Jon


#4

[quote="CaptFun, post:1, topic:343660"]

While the same article here calls the latter program "popular", Romney nonetheless was soundly beaten in the state he once governed in the 2012 Presidential election.

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That was interesting to me too. Did they vote against Romneycare or did they not care for his repudiation of his own signature legislation?


#5

I heard that the Muslims are exempted from the ACA as health insurance goes against their religion.
Seems to me that we as Catholics,Christians n general should be given the same consideration.
Also,there is a Christian health sharing,wonder if the Bishop’s would get behind something similar for the Catholic community?:shrug:


#6

She's not sorry for the "debacle" since this was Obama's plan all along. She's sorry the truth caught up with her this soon.


#7

Is she also sorry that with all the software companies to choose from in the US, the company chosen, without any competing bids, just HAPPENED to be run by a friend and supporter of the Obamas?:hmmm:


#8

Wasn’t it a college friend of Michelle’s?


#9

[quote="KevinAK, post:6, topic:343660"]
She's not sorry for the "debacle" since this was Obama's plan all along. She's sorry the truth caught up with her this soon.

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:thumbsup:


#10

[quote="Lormar, post:8, topic:343660"]
Wasn't it a college friend of Michelle's?

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Yes.


#11

[quote="Lormar, post:8, topic:343660"]
Wasn't it a college friend of Michelle's?

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Exactly!


#12

You didn’t expect them to give $600 million of our money to a STRANGER did you? :rolleyes:


#13

[quote="Ridgerunner, post:12, topic:343660"]
You didn't expect them to give $600 million of our money to a STRANGER did you? :rolleyes:

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Well, I kind of expected them to give it to a company that would do the job right the first time. Especially for THAT kind of money!:shrug:


#14

[quote="LegoGE1947, post:13, topic:343660"]
Well, I kind of expected them to give it to a company that would do the job right the first time. Especially for THAT kind of money!:shrug:

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You did? Hope springs eternal, I guess. After seeing the $800 billion "stimulus" money go into every political rathole imaginable and producing virtually no jobs, I gave up on any kind of good expectations of this administration a long time ago.


#15

[quote="ProVobis, post:4, topic:343660"]
That was interesting to me too. Did they vote against Romneycare or did they not care for his repudiation of his own signature legislation?

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In a way my take is that it is such a gimme state for a Democrat that sometimes the Democrats get bored, take election day off, and the tortoise beats the hare for a brief term (like Romney won the Governorship and Scott Brown won Kennedy's old seat in a special election).

The idea that Romney was still popular in New England and could carry a state or two was one of the reasons he was "inevitable" as the GOP candidate in 2012. As it turned out Paul Ryan his running mate could not bring in Wisconsin either. Nor did Michigan (Romney's Dad George was Governor there back in the day) go with the GOP team.

Romney became pro-life AFTER he became Massachusetts Governor also ... after seeing some presentations by pro-life groups. Funny thing is ... this didn't seem to help him with Catholics in 2012 ... nor did having a Catholic running mate.

In this 2008 report from Reuters, Massachusetts has the second highest population of Catholics. The Catholic Church is openly pro-life. Yet most of the states with the highest
percentage of Catholics not only voted for very pro-choice Obama in 2012 ... but have
pro-choice Senators representing them as well.

I'll post an interesting chart on my next post re: Catholic population per state. Here's a link to it FYI

reuters.com/article/2008/10/31/idUS257848+31-Oct-2008+PRN20081031


#16

Somewhat of a continuation of my previous post, answer to a query.

Sebellius was elected Governor of Kansas which had just 15% Catholic population when she ran.

Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:39pm EDT
WASHINGTON, Oct. 31 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released
today by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops:

Background
In response to media inquiries, here is a list of states with their population
and percentage who are Catholics according to the 2008 Official Catholic
Directory.

Hmm. Columns disappeared upon posting. The percentage Catholic figure is the last decimal one on the right. States with more than 20% Catholics are in RED
U.S. Catholic Population by State

State           State Population   Catholics    Percentage Catholic
Alabama             4,627,851       151,554                   3.3
Alaska                626,932        52,813                    8.4
Arizona             6,338,755     1,026,302                   16.2
Arkansas            2,834,797       116,605                    4.1
California         36,553,215    10,463,330                   28.6
Colorado            4,861,515       707,420                   14.6
Connecticut         3,502,309     1,282,153                   36.6
Delaware              783,600       233,000                   29.7
Florida            18,251,243     2,366,688                   13
Georgia             9,544,750       730,005                    7.6
Hawaii              1,283,388       251,575                   19.6
Idaho               1,499,402       165,363                   11
Illinois           12,852,548     3,870,647                   30.1
Indiana             6,345,289       762,076                   12.0
Iowa                2,988,046       499,661                   16.7
Kansas              2,775,997       415,103                   15
Kentucky            4,241,474       382,521                    9
Louisiana           4,293,204     1,188,798                   27.7
Maine               1,317,207       191,008                   14.5
Maryland            5,618,344       504,159                    9
Massachusetts       6,449,755     2,709,552                   42
Michigan           10,071,822     2,206,372                   21.9
Minnesota           5,197,621     1,064,696                   20.5
Mississippi         2,918,785       107,098                    3.7
Missouri            5,878,415       757,349                   12.9
Montana               957,861       104,276                   10.9
Nebraska            1,774,571       366,894                   20.7
Nevada              2,565,382       829,675                   32.3
New Hampshire       1,315,828       319,269                   24.3
New Jersey          8,685,920     3,562,389                   41
New Mexico          1,969,915       498,334                   25.3
New York           19,297,729     7,166,308       37.1    
North Carolina      9,061,032       365,888                    4
North Dakota          639,715       146,153                   22.8
Ohio               11,466,917     2,068,348                   18
Oklahoma            3,617,316       175,006                    4.8
Oregon              3,747,455       442,137                   11.8
Pennsylvania        12,432,792    3,530,817                   28.4
Rhode Island         1,057,832      629,889                   59.5
South Carolina       4,407,709      183,356                    4.2
South Dakota           796,214      153,357                   19.3
Tennessee            6,156,719      141,740                    2.3
Texas               23,904,380    6,503,844                   27.2
Utah                 2,645,330      230,000                    8.7
Vermont                621,254      118,000                   19
Virginia             7,712,091      642,064                    8.3
Washington           6,468,424      746,385                   11.5
West Virginia        1,812,035       88,974                    4.9
Wisconsin            5,601,640    1,650,276                   29.5
Wyoming                522,830       47,119                    9

Data retrieved from Official Catholic Directory 2008

SOURCE U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops

Sr. Mary Ann Walsh of U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, +1-202-541-3200,
Home: +1-301-587-4762

Some of these same states have had some of the more famous Catholic scandals too. (sigh) :gopray2:

This from Halloween Day ... 5 years ago. :cool: - Boo! :(


#17

Stay classy Madam Secretary, stay classy. :rolleyes:

kcci.com/news/health/health-care-reform/Frustrated-Sebelius-to-questioner-Whatever/-/21920556/22715990/-/65eet9/-/index.html#ixzz2jFpwRhtj

She had been in the congressional hot seat for two and a half hours. And many Republicans had been waiting just as long to ask her questions.

When Rep. Gregg Harper, R-Miss., got his chance, he pounded away at Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius hard enough to illicit a rare, audible sign of frustration from her.

Sebelius blurted out a word common to exasperated teenagers and zen masters alike, "whatever."


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