Secularism


#1

I have come to ask all of you what is your opinion on secularism and/ or multiculturalism? Is it good ? Bad? A necessity or something we can do away with?


#2

[quote=Shadowcry]I have come to ask all of you what is your opinion on secularism and/ or multiculturalism? Is it good ? Bad? A necessity or something we can do away with?
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If by “secularism” you mean a system of government where no one religion oppresses any other religion, then secularism is both good and a necessity.


#3

Sure, Thanks for your opinion.

BTW, Do you belive multiculturalism is a “good” thing in society?


#4

[quote=Shadowcry]Sure, Thanks for your opinion.

BTW, Do you belive multiculturalism is a “good” thing in society?
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Multiculturalism is a reality. It is also good, since it opens peoples’ minds to different ways of living and being.


#5

[quote=Shadowcry]I have come to ask all of you what is your opinion on secularism and/ or multiculturalism? Is it good ? Bad? A necessity or something we can do away with?
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The Church is universal and crosses all ethnicities and borders. So, multiculturalism is part of the reality of the Church. There are Catholics in every country in the world and we are all united by a common faith.


#6

Please post something relevant. Sorry if this sounded harsh but try to post this to the real definition of multicuturalism.

Frankly Catholics are not connected together by faith. If you want an exaple of this come to my neighbourhood.


#7

[quote=Shadowcry]Frankly Catholics are not connected together by faith. If you want an exaple of this come to my neighbourhood.
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Catholics are connected by faith, I don’t think you’re fully getting the idea of Catholicism, and to be honest, Catholics in your neighborhood are probably not to eager to show their faith to Muslims out of fear of some horrific punishment.


#8

[quote=Shadowcry]Please post something relevant. Sorry if this sounded harsh but try to post this to the real definition of multicuturalism.

Frankly Catholics are not connected together by faith. If you want an exaple of this come to my neighbourhood.
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You live in Pakistan, don’t you?


#9

So.


#10

[quote=Mike_D30]Catholics are connected by faith, I don’t think you’re fully getting the idea of Catholicism, and to be honest, Catholics in your neighborhood are probably not to eager to show their faith to Muslims out of fear of some horrific punishment.
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Or their too busy drinking to be with their families. Please don’t tell me about Catholics in Pakistan. I think I now them better then you.


#11

[quote=Shadowcry]Or their too busy drinking to be with their families. Please don’t tell me about Catholics in Pakistan. I think I now them better then you.
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You’re a bigot!

And again you live in Pakistan, Christians are tormented and tortured in your country so please, you know nothing about them.


#12

[quote=Shadowcry]So.
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I would think all Christians in Pakistan would be united by the fact that they have to keep a low profile.


#13

[quote=Mike_D30]You’re a bigot!

And again you live in Pakistan, Christians are tormented and tortured in your country so please, you know nothing about them.
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Your a bigot you think you know Pakistani Christians. You don’t so shut up. Their my neighbours not yours so think before you talk.


#14

[quote=Shadowcry]Your a bigot you think you know Pakistani Christians. You don’t so shut up. Their my neighbours not yours so think before you talk.
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You labeled Catholic’s all as drunks who don’t spend time with their families, you sir a bigot. I won’t “shut up”, you’re a bigot and an anti-Catholic, it’s clear as day.


#15

I labelled Pakistani Christians as drunks as a joke. some of htem are.


#16

[quote=Shadowcry]I labelled Pakistani Christians as drunks as a joke. some of htem are.
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O.K. then I’ll label American Muslims as barbaric suicide bombing wife beaters, some of them are…

hahahahaa what a great bunch of laughs we’re having here tonight…


#17

Yeah I suppose but then I was wrong. I should not have labelled anyone . I apologize for offending anyone.


#18

Shadowcry,
I am an American woman and a Catholic. My father’s family came over from Poland. When I was young, even though I was born and raised in the US, I was taught Polish as my first language. My father was a very educated man and very proud. He absolutely forbid his daughters to date outside our faith. But we couldn’t even talk to people of other races. That is a bigot and a racist. I loved my father but he totally saw things through the way he was brought up. He refused to entertain the idea that his daughters could befriend a Baptist or even worse, a hispanic or black person. What a shame! I have many friends of many colors and creeds. They enrich my life and hopefully I do the same for them. In America today it is pretty much hard not to associate with other groups of people. For the most part, Americans are very individualistic. There are bad people in every race and every creed. By the same token, there are good people from every walk of life too. Catholics are as diverse. In my parish for example, we have Caucasions, African Americans, Hispanics, Japanese, Indonesians, etc. and I live in a very small town! In the same respect, we have rich folks, poor people, and every income inbetween. We are different in so many ways, but in some respects, we are very alike; we are Catholics, we believe in the same things for the most part. We work together, our children go to school together, we worship together. Racism and bigotry has no place in our churches. While it should not have a place in our hearts, unfortunately it does at times. We are not perfect, we are human. In the US a generation ago there was alot more racism and bigotry than there is now IMHO this is because we have to get along for work, school, worship, etc. If I believed everything I was taught as a child by my father about these people that are different than me, I would not have the friends I love so dearly. Please do not judge Catholics by a single family or a few families that you see around you. We are of every nation and race, we are so totally universal that we can’t be described in any way shape or form. Someday, we hope and pray to be know by our hearts, that all may see a shining example of what we can be, until then…there is no stereotypical Christian or Catholic.


#19

I apologize if I have insulted you blest one. I became arrogant.


#20

[quote=Shadowcry]I apologize if I have insulted you blest one. I became arrogant.
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Apology not necessary, we are all human. I am sorry you have bad examples of christians where you are at. Truly, I am interested in hearing about your experience with christians in Pakistan. I only know one Pakistani Christian, and he is a very nice man.


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