Seperate sins and important details


#1

My thread was recently (little less than a week ago) deleted from liturgy&sacraments forums because it contained specific sins. I hope it won’t be a problem here, since many people on Moral theology forums mention specific sins…
DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU STRUGLE WITH IMPURE THOUGHTS, OR AT LEAST PRAY WHILE DOING IT. I REALLY RECOMAND THAT.
So my question is regarding separate sins and important details of sins.

  1. Are watching porn and masturbation two separate sins? Somebody told me they are, but I don’t get it. If porn is just tool for getting evil thoughts, why would it even be an important detail? Can one in confession mention only evil thoughts and masturbation (I did this couple months ago, so I confessed these details last Sunday)?
  2. If somebody confesses that his masturbation and thoughts iinvolved sodomy, does he also have to say that pornography he watched included sodomy? What about men watching pornography that include only girls in perverse and disgousting actions? Does sodomy in porn then has to be confessed since he was attracted to opposite gender? What about man who confesses sodomite thoughts, but doesn’t confess watching sodomite porn including two men?
  3. Does wanting your neughbour’s wife have to confessed as well if you already confessed evil sexual thoughts and masturbation? How can wanting your neighbours wife be a separate sin if, while masturbating with full knowledge of it’s sinfulness and full contol, you are commiting a mortal sin and separate yourself from God. so you obviously don’t care about not breaking 9th commandmant?
  4. Is using tools for masturbation an important detail that has to be said in confession?
  5. Is it separate sin or important detail for a men to use non-genital parts in self-pleasuring because of his sodomy?
  6. Is calling somebody you are attracted to and masturbating while talking to him important detail (or even separate sin) that has to be confessed?
  7. Is not doing your obligations because of masturbation, watching porn and sinful thoughts important detail or separate sin and does it have to be confessed?
  8. Is using impure words (I don’t mean cussing, but disgousting lustful words) separate sin or important detail that has to be confessed?
    9 If somebody would use Lords name in vain as a part of a song, would he have an obligation to say that it was in song?
    I would really like to avoid discousing this with a priest. I am really ashamed and I can’t say that I trust him fully. Also, I can’t talk to him until Sunday (situation is complicated). Anyways, you have heard everything that I would tell him so I don’t see why would you have any more problems with answering my question than a priest. Please try to answer as manny questions as you can…
    SORRY FOR BAD ENGLISH!

#2

I read the first part of your thread. Not much else. I think I know what you mean.

I’m not a father, but possibly confess your heart with love and courage trusting God’s goodness. I’m not saying don’t be specific or too specific. Just relate it all as LUST or EVIL THOUGHTS. All I’m trying to say is specifics may be okay. But, start with an overall general term(s).

And keep away from those things from now on. Make serious amends to your life. Good luck.


#3

Of course I will keep away from those things(if you mean mortal sins). It’s better to be tortured for bilion years than to commit mortal sin. I, however, don’t know how to confess sins that I have commited…


#4

If you honestly attempted to confess them all, and are only now wondering if you did it properly, I would say you are absolved and should move on.


#5

If you honestly attempted to confess them all, and are only now wondering if you did it properly, I would say you are absolved and should move on.


“I plead with you! Never, ever give up on hope, never doubt, never tire, and never become discouraged. Be not afraid.”
“If He asks much of you, it is because He knows you can give much.”

  • St Pope John Paul II

#6

:confused:o

We have an obligation to mention mortal sins we have forgoten. Also, I have one of these unconfessed.


#7

Given the list of sins you are struggling with and how to confess them I would make an appointment with a priest and just ask him directly what needs to be confessed in these areas. I realize you don’t want to get into specifics but if you have such maybe it’s best to ask the priest and just hear what his advice is.

In fact, you could just print off the post you posted here, let him read it and give you the advice. That might be easiest.
Mary.


#8
  1. They are three separate sins: impure thoughts, pornography, and masturbation. Each of these can be committed on their own or together. Impure thoughts are only a sin if you continue to dwell on them after you realize you are having them. You have to ignore them when they pop up by finding some distraction like prayer or keeping yourself busy with a mental task.

  2. I wouldn’t go into that much detail. All pornography involves perverse fantasies. You don’t need to say exactly how.

  3. I don’t think you would need to go into that much detail. Saying you willingly engaged in impure thoughts is enough. It doesn’t matter what kind of impure thoughts.

  4. If you’re talking about “toys”, I would consider having them in your house to be a near occasion of sin. Using them would just be part of masturbation, not a separate sin. Owning them would be a separate sin though. If you know you have a problem, you can’t have anything around that will lead you to sin.

  5. Again, the priest doesn’t need those details.

  6. This is called mutual masturbation. You should confess this since it involves another person.

  7. I would just call that laziness or procrastination. You have more important things to do but waste time doing something else. It doesn’t matter what that other thing is to me if you already confessed it above.

  8. If you are telling yourself these things, I would consider it part of impure thoughts or more generally, fantasizing. If you are saying these words to someone else, it would be leading or tempting others to sin, which is its own sin.

  9. Yes, he should say he was singing a song. It would reduce culpability. If he already knows the lyrics have those words, he should avoid singing those words or avoid singing the song altogether.

I hope this helps. Please remember that this is only my opinion. You should really make an appointment with your priest to discuss these things, so you don’t have to hold up the confession line.


#9

Thank you! I will confess sodomite porn anyways… Regarding number 5, I do not own them and they are not classical “toys”, I need them for something else.


#10

Thank you Mary for response, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. First of all, I am a little afraid he is going to give me wrong advice. Also, I would be really ashamed during this conversation and it shame wouldn’t, I am afraid, go for some time…


#11

Thank you Mary for response, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. First of all, I am a little afraid he is going to give me wrong advice. Also, I would be really ashamed during this conversation and it shame wouldn’t, I am afraid, go for some time… Besides, why are you so sure that he would neceseraly know better than any of you? I mean, he is a priest, but still, Catholic theology isn’t secret knowledge among priests, but an absolute truth for everyone.


#12

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I am not sure that you have understood what I am talking about. I am talking about calling someone who doesn’t know that I am masturbationg while talking to him… Does this have to be confessed?
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