From the other thread:
Mr. Batchelor said he read the book Crossing the Threshold of Hope written by his Holiness John Paul II. In the book it says:"Confronted with the Pope, one must make a choice. The leader of the Catholic Church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers), The Pope is considered the man on the earth who represents the Son of God, who ‘takes the place’ of the second person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity. page 3
Mr. Batchelor stated this is blasphemy. He states “The Bible states that God is Holy, Holy and reverened is His Name.” He argued that the Pope is man and since he is man he is human. Human falls short in the Glory of God. He said that the pope shouldn’t even consider himself the 2nd of the trinity…
Okay, I managed to locate [the text of the book online](“http://forums.catholic.com/Confronted with the Pope, one must make a choice. The leader of the Catholic Church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who represents the Son of God, who “takes the place” of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity.”) and as usual Batchelor, as do so many other SDA anti-Catholics, snatches something out of context and makes his attack.
The statement that he uses is not from Pope John Paul II at all but from Vittorio Messori, the journalist whose questions he is responding to. Batchelor seizes on this in his quest to indict the Pope and the Catholic faith, but it doesn’t work because every knowledgeable Catholic is well aware of what “Vicar of Christ” means.The Catholic Encyclopedia states:
A title of the pope implying his supreme and universal primacy, both of honor and of jurisdiction, over the Church of Christ
Vicar of Christ (Lat. Vicarius Christi), a title of the pope implying his supreme and universal primacy, both of honor and of jurisdiction, over the Church of Christ. It is founded on the words of the Divine Shepherd to St. Peter: “Feed my lambs… Feed my sheep” (John, xxi, 16, 17), by which He constituted the Prince of the Apostles guardian of His entire flock in His own place, thus making him His Vicar and fulfilling the promise made in Matt. xvi, 18, 19. In the course of ages other vicarial designations have been used for the pope, as Vicar of St. Peter and even Vicar of the Apostolic See (Pope Gelasius, I, Ep. vi), but the title Vicar of Christ is more expressive of his supreme headship of the Church on earth, which he bears in virtue of the commission of Christ and with vicarial power derived from Him. Thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. “Inter corporalia”, 2, “De trans. ep.”). He also declares that Christ has given such power only to His Vicar Peter and his successors (cap. “Quanto”, 3, ibid.), and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is “the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ” (cap. “` Licet”, 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. “Fundamenta ejus”, 17, “De elect.”, in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ
Messori’s terminology is poor, though Catholics know what he meant. It does not, as he states “take the place of the 2nd person of the Trinity” That’s idiotic, and no pope has ever, does not now, and will never, make such a claim.
The pope is the Vicar of Christ in the same sense that Peter was when Our Blessed Lord told him to “feed my lambs…feed my sheep”.
It is absolutely true that Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, but the Popes, from St. Peter on have only ever acted as His representative, (much as a Prime Minister) to His Church on Earth…and nothing more.