And that is my point. There was a time when real romance and falling in love meant something. Those older TV shows and movies reflected Christian values. Today, because of decades of conditioning, it’s ‘just sex.’ This is better? This is more civilized? With one in five people in the United States walking around with an STD, I think the answer should be obvious.
The flesh will get you nowhere. True modesty. True love. Real commitment and caring – that’s what I grew up with.
This constant emphasis on “What’s the Big Deal” has poisoned too many Catholics and other Christians over the last 40 years. Indifference, according to Pope Benedict, is a big problem. Indifference means not a whole lot means a whole lot. Or to quote the Hippies: “Hey man. If it feels good, do it.”
God knows I’m not perfect, but we will not turn things around by saying, Yeah. Sure. Whatever. It’s boring to be good or wholesome.
No offense ed, but I really hate it when you sound like something has to be boring by modern standards just to be “good and wholesome”.
My mom watches Sex and the City and frankly shows like that and the 50s cheese you you get all nostalgic about are two extremes. One is no more tasteful than the other.
I’m not for treating sex like a harmless fling adults get into (which is what I find in a lot of American sit-coms) but neither am I for making every TV show like Pleasantville (and don’t mean the movie).
I cant think of a way off the top of my headthat a wholly chastity based show would work as well as Sex and the City, however, I think it would be nice maybe to have a show with a main character who is physically chaste, and how she interacts with other non-chaste people. It would be only realistic to portray a group of friends, not all of which are sexually promiscuous or complete virgins.
I dont know if you watch the show, but the character Charlotte, who while not chaste is quite prude by most standards, is best friends with Samantha and I think to show that people like these two can still be friends is lovely.
So i think it is possible to have a chaste main character.
Yes that’s definitely one way I tend to go about it. Personally since I’m a fantasy nut, I actually for a bit more extreme in that I have characters that embody your stereotypical saints traveling side-by-side with grim anti-heroes that have been inspired by the real, imperfect-yet-admirable people in my life.
Dawn Eden, when her website was still active, used to comment on this a great deal. She’d gone from aspiring to this sort of lifestyle to promoting chastity, and was very illuminating on the misery that a life of the type espoused by such shows entailed.
The show has already been made. It was called That Girl, and it starred Marlo Thomas as a young actress named Ann Marie who lived in New York City and worked hard to break into show business. She dated a handsome man named Don Hollinger.
Ann and Don were given a totally-chaste relationship by the show’s writers. In spite of this, or perhaps because of it, the show was hilarious. The characters were all well-developed, the dialogue was witty and sharp, and the plots were clever and engaging. Ms. Thomas was a delightful actress with a perfect sense of comic timing and a willingness to engage in physical humor (tripping, mugging, etc.) when necessary.
And Ann was beautiful. Even as a child/young teenager, I knew that Ann Marie probably didn’t have enough money to buy all the fashionable outfits that she wore, but I also figured out that her parents were probably helping her out with expenses. Oh, I loved seeing her pretty dresses, her makeup, and her long black hair (with and without bangs–I liked both styles).
Again, this show was about a young woman in a big city looking for work in a worldly career (show biz), but it was so decent that a nun could watch it. And it was funny.
So it can be done. I am hoping with all of my heart that SOMEONE will re-do That Girl, but I’m so afraid it will be perverted and “updated” with sex and materialism.
*Morality aside though, the irony of this show, and I did see the first movie…is that here we have seemingly educated, wealthy, savvy, witty women who have such low self esteem, they’ll sleep with literally, just about anyone…
I love the cast…but that is the problem with the show for me. If women want to be treated equal, finding random bed partners night after night, ain’t how you do it…and second, if they are so ‘‘fine without a man’’ (another underlying tone of the movie) why do they sit by the phone waiting for jerks to call them?
In the first movie, when ‘‘Big’’ didn’t show up to his own church wedding…and Carrie took him back AGAIN? That’s what I find ironic about the show…women who try to come off as strong, powerful, and aloof when it comes to men…but they would do anything to not be alone…even foresake their own dignity…and what little values they have. So…they don’t need men, but they do a darn good job of acting desperate for ANY man.
The saving grace of the movie…I didn’t see part two…is that the women’s friendship is endearing and nice to watch. They support each other…they’re funny, witty…their lives are not all about immorality. Some are married, and the intricacies of married life come into play.
I like the episode where Ann’s parents play Monopoly with Ann and Don, and there’s a huge conflict over Marvin Gardens. I cannot play Monopoly without thinking of Mr. Marie trying to be polite and let Don have Marvin Gardens when he really wants to grab the whole game board and throw it across the room. I can’t even remember the main plot, but I remember that Monopoly game.
One of the things I liked about the show is that the men were not made-fun-of or belittled by the women on the show. Ann clearly adored Donald Hollinger and respected him and his work. And she adored her Daddy, even though he was a little overbearing at times. Interesting how in so many of the older shows, it was the MOTHER-in-law who was portrayed as an interfering shrew, whereas in That Girl, the (future) father-in-law was the one who was hard-to-get along with. But he wasn’t stupid or dim-bulbed like so many of the men on today’s sitcoms. He was just suspicious and over-protective of his daughter–isn’t that real life? Like I said, all the characters on the show were portrayed with respect.
(I’m guessing that Danny Thomas passed this value on to his daughter.)
I know, I know, she married Phil Donahue. But the show, That Girl is still a good show.