Sheehan’s Leftwing Adventure Continues

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Why am I not at all surprised?

I never gave her much attention when she was protesting initially. She was looking for publicity and received it. We may not all agree with this war, but I support the troops and I would never disgrace America.

From gopusa.com, eh? That’ll be unbiased :slight_smile:

Mike

**From gopusa.com, eh? That’ll be unbiased **

Doesn’t matter that it’s from their website.
I saw that evil woman on TV with Marxist Hugo Chavez and the crowd of America-haters with my own two eyes. The article is 100% accurate.

Jaypeeto3

[quote=Jaypeeto3]Doesn’t matter that it’s from their website.
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No, but you shouldn’t expect it to be unbiased.

I saw that evil woman on TV with Marxist Hugo Chavez and the crowd of America-haters with my own two eyes.

Evil? I think you mean ‘fellow Catholic’ :slight_smile: And, incidentally, Chavez is a lefty, socialist in some ways, but he’s nothing like a Marxist.

Mike

Follow this link to find out Ms. Sheehans true politics…

The World Can’t Wait (WCW) Rally…

zombietime.com/world_cant_wait_sf_11-2-2005/

No, I don’t consider foul-mouthed Leftist ideologues as fellow Catholics. Maybe in name only.
And as for Chavez not being a Marxist, I don’t think he would agree with you. He considers himself the next Castro.
And my Venezuelan co-workers consider him a Communist.
They’ve known of him for years.

Jaypeeto3

I think you mean ‘fellow Catholic’ :slight_smile: And, incidentally, Chavez is a lefty, socialist in some ways, but he’s nothing like a Marxist.

Mike, you have real issues if you consider Chavez to be a “socialist in some ways.” This guy is a wannabe dictator and cares about no one but himself. You need to work on your discernment skills, guy!

Oh and by the way, the comment about fellow Catholic…sitting in a garage doesn’t make one a car. Besides, if someone’s wrong, they’re wrong regardless of what religion/politics they profess.

Lisa

[quote=Lischou]Mike, you have real issues if you consider Chavez to be a “socialist in some ways.” This guy is a wannabe dictator and cares about no one but himself. You need to work on your discernment skills, guy!
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Hugo Chavez has espoused the Bolivaran Dream as his aim for the Caribbean and for South and Central America. He also has his eye on certain communities with the US.

Here is some info on the Bolivaran Dream:

[/font]Simon de Bolivar’s Dream: The Cartagena Manifesto

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Simón Bolívar asserted as early as 1812 in his Cartagena Manifesto that the revolutionary government’s primary role was to restore order "without regards for laws or constitutions

until happiness and peace have been destroyed".

the basic principles of Bolivarist republicanism are:
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*]Order as most important necessity.
*]Tricameral legislature with varied and broad powers composed of[list=a]
*]A hereditary and professional Senate.
*]A body of Censors composing the state’s “moral authority”.
*]A popularly elected legislative assembly.
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*]A life-term executive supported by a strong, active cabinet or ministers.
*]A judicial system stripped of legislative powers.
*]A representative electoral system.
*]Military autonomy.
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This first article (below) sets out in detail the dictator things which Chavez has already done. The other articles require some knowledge about the differences between the concept ‘doctor’ in the U.S. and in Cuba/Nicaragua. Many of the tantalizing ideals set out in subsequent articles should be read in the context of Orwellian newspeak for systematic deconstruction of democratic government and systematic centralizing of power in the hands of a totalitarian and megalomaniacal dictator.

consolidates power, deconstructs democracyChavez

offer free health care to Carribean and Latin AmericaCastro Chavez

: Bolivaran Alternative – literacy, healthcare, oil, television; South American union (Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, and Venezuela)Castro Chavez

Sao Paolo Forum

12th visit since 1999; Cuba ‘aids’ oil-rich Venezuela’s poorCastro Chavez

: Petrocarribe oil alliance; Telesur – Venezuela’s ‘CNN’ for LatinamericaChavez

plan anti-American alliancePutin Chavez

: exactly what does ‘destabilizing Latinamerica’ mean? Narcotraffickers; armsChavez

Cuban medical care is excellent and innovative, as long as you don’t step outside your safety zone which, in Cuba, is very very small. Cuba was up to her eyeballs in Nicaragua, Salvador, Guatamala. During the troubles in Guatamala 50% of medical students in that country were in the pay of the paramilitary. In Nicaragua, under Ortega, military physicians were trained in intelligence gathering which included torture. It was common to send medics to Vietnam, Cuba, and China for ‘training.’

As for literacy and media: what do you think that is all about?

In one of those articles there is an item about Chavez aggressively building up his military. What do you think that is all about?

Also associated with the Bolivaran ideal is panamericanism. Somewhere in those links it must be mentioned. If not, well, take my word for it. Earlier on I said two things:

  1. Never underestimate Fidel Castro.
  2. In less than one generation the U.S. will be majority hispanic.

Note: I don’t think I am hijacking the thread. Ms Sheehan has befriended Mr Chavez. I think it is useful to know what Mr Chavez is about.

I have to say this, if Cindy Sheehan runs for President, I’ll vote for her (but only in the Democratic primary.)http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[quote=vern humphrey]I have to say this, if Cindy Sheehan runs for President, I’ll vote for her (but only in the Democratic primary.)http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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:rotfl:

I have to say this, if Cindy Sheehan runs for President, I’ll vote for her (but only in the Democratic primary.)http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

hehehehehe! :smiley:

[quote=vern humphrey]I have to say this, if Cindy Sheehan runs for President, I’ll vote for her (but only in the Democratic primary.)http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Forget the Democratic party. We need to get her to run as a third party candidate - maybe the Green Party. If we can do that, I’ll campaign for her! I’ll even put a bumper sticker in the rear window of my car!

(I wouldn’t vote for her, of course)

Forget the Democratic party. We need to get her to run as a third party candidate - maybe the Green Party. If we can do that, I’ll campaign for her! I’ll even put a bumper sticker in the rear window of my car!

:thumbsup: :rotfl:

[quote=Jaypeeto3]And as for Chavez not being a Marxist, I don’t think he would agree with you. He considers himself the next Castro.
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So? Castro’s not a Marxist either :slight_smile:

And my Venezuelan co-workers consider him a Communist.
They’ve known of him for years.

Communism isn’t Marxism or socialism, either :slight_smile:

Mike

[quote=Lischou]Mike, you have real issues if you consider Chavez to be a “socialist in some ways.” This guy is a wannabe dictator and cares about no one but himself. You need to work on your discernment skills, guy!
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None of which makes him not ‘a socialist in some ways’. He’s certainly not a Marxist, in any event. People don’t seem to know what Marxism is anymore.

Oh and by the way, the comment about fellow Catholic…sitting in a garage doesn’t make one a car. Besides, if someone’s wrong, they’re wrong regardless of what religion/politics they profess.

So you tell them they are wrong. No reason to become uncharitable towards them.

Mike

Splitting hairs, Mike. ‘Rotten’ by any other name would smell just as bad. :yup:

Lisa

[quote=vern humphrey]I have to say this, if Cindy Sheehan runs for President, I’ll vote for her (but only in the Democratic primary.)http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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So you tell them they are wrong. No reason to become uncharitable towards them.

Telling someone they’re wrong is not uncharitable. The truth generally does hurt and just going along with someone so as not to makes waves (or hurt their feelings) does not help that person in any way. If one *truely *loves another (a fellow Catholic, as you say) then one would tell them the truth. :slight_smile:

Lisa

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