Shock study: Marriage rate declines with porn use, threatening economy, society


#1

Pornography is replacing the desire among young men for marriage, according to a new study that finds males are chasing “low-cost sexual gratification” on the web over a wife and family.

“Traditionally, one of the reasons to enter into a marriage was sexual gratification. But as options for sexual gratification outside of marriage have grown, the need for a marriage to serve this function is diminishing,” said the report.

The report published by Germany’s Institute for the Study of Labor and co-authored by a West Chester University of Pennsylvania professor suggested that the government crack down on porn access, especially as more and easier tools to tap into the Internet, such as smartphones, expand. Saving marriage, said the report, will help the economy and society.

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washingtonexaminer.com/shock-study-men-choosing-internet-porn-over-marriage-for-sex-threatening-economy-society/article/2557461


#2

Porn and masturbation don’t substitute for actual sex. A man or woman, for that matter, will watch porn and/or masturbate and still want to have actual sex with a real live person later that day, week, month, whatever. Not to mention marriage is no longer a pre-req for sex.

Is porn a problem? Yes. But porn availability is not killing the desire to marry for young and young-ish men. A man doesn’t have to use porn to be sexually gratified when there are plenty of women quite willing to have sex without marriage, commitment, or even a friendship. Why buy a cow when you can get plenty of milk for free?


#3

I have questions about whether or not this study was unbiased. I noticed that a group called Morality in Media was mentioned. This group is very much against pornography and therefore they are biased. Did they fund this study or perform it? If not, who did? I’m sorry but I am not going to trust this study unless it can be proven that it was not biased.


#4

I would disagree on at least one count. The impossible standard of beauty and perfection, or whatever turns one on with porn, makes it much less possible to then connect with a real person, who, of course, comes with any variety of imperfections. This is a great problem indeed, and we are seeing only the tip of the iceberg.


#5

They aren’t linked. Marriage breakdown is more due to economic reason (especially for males), decreasing religiosity, and feminism ( more women working, women don’t marry down typically, don’t need a male). Internet porn use goes up with more internet use.

Anyway apparently like 90+ percent of males who use the internet have viewed porn so thats a huge sample size that probably reflects general trends…


#6

Porn a lot of the times is for introverts or those who don’t feel like pursing a relationship or too shy. I don’t want to get to into this but the women in porn aren’t exactly unatainbale supermodels. It not that people who watch porn are too “picky” most of the time.


#7

Do you have any evidence that decreasing religiosity and feminism contribute to marriage breakdown?


#8

Well, for one, those who aren’t practicing a religion usually do not believe pre-martial sex is wrong or that divorce is wrong. Between the two you end up with people having little incentive to get married or stay married. Again, why buy the cow when you’re getting milk for free? Why be tied down and burdened with marriage when you can just casually hook up or have a serial monogamy type lifestyle?

Feminism’s purpose was for women to be able to be legally and socially equal to men. This lead to more and more women seeking education and working outside the home. Women became independent and had no need to marry for economic security or social acceptance. Once women didn’t need a man for social or economic reasons many decided they were happy with their lives and either opted for hook-ups, serial monogamy, or simply became “too picky” and never found a mate that suited them in the very long term.


#9

No joke! Before my conversion I watched enough porn of all kinds and I can vouch for this statement. Most of the women in pro porn are very attractive, but more “curvy” than say regular actors or models by far. If one is venturing into amateur porn, which is what most free internet porn is, the women are very much regular. Half or more are even…Rubenesque.


#10

:thumbsup: Nailed it. Whether you like it or not, this is true. Feminism’s basic premise to me is that being an “independent” woman is basically living like a man and competing with them for money, social status, self-affirmation, etc. Basically adopting that model and then devoting your life to out-doing that. Plus raising a family on the side as it fits into your schedule. I think men aren’t particularly fond of that approach and lose interest a little bit. A lot of the fun, the good tension of opposites, the chase as they say, is gone. Each sex lives for themselves and they just negotiate relationships to suit their needs, never quite figuring out why they are still so unhappy. Sexual freedom is also a huge factor here. When people get bored with each other (and they do) or just tempted by another, they wander (in fantasy or fact) or use porn.


#11

there’s a lot more to marriage than sexual gratification. i would say it’s more likely free sex and living together than porn, although it probably contributes to some extent.


#12

I’m not buying it. I don’t know anyone who actually believes that porn or masturbation are anywhere near as desirable as sexual contact with another human being. No one would rather masturbate than have actual sex. :rolleyes:


#13

Exactly.

Not to imply that I support porn or anything.


#14

Why shouldn’t a woman have a career, live independently, and compete for money, social status, etc. just like everyone else? It’s not about the gender of the person. It’s about a person being able to live their lives as they see fit regardless of gender.

Getting bored, infidelity, negotiating relationships to suit need is nothing new. The only difference is that women now have the ability to negotiate from a better position. A woman doesn’t have to “settle” for a man she doesn’t really want or stay in a relationship she doesn’t want to be in for the sake of income. She can support herself. This is actually a good thing. Who wants to be the woman staying in a relationship or getting married because she lacks other viable options? Who wants to be the man whose wife is only there because she needs his money to live?


#15

I am seeing through the lens of a Christian. I think your first priority is to God. Then to others. I don’t have a problem with women being in the workplace (I am in the workplace). It is a financial necessity for many. I am ok with freedom to do what you want and to marry or not marry when and to whom you want. My real issue is with the model we have - that work, money, social status, individuality lead to happiness. We negotiate our relationships through that lens. I think that is a false notion, for men and for women. I don’t like living my life focused on job ambition and competition as if they are good things - I think it’s a stupid and boring way to live. :slight_smile:


#16

I have a few issues with this study.

  1. they compare 1950’s marriage rates to now. But massive changes in divorce rules occurred in the 60’s that contributed to the break of even the pre-1960’s marriages.

  2. The issue of lower marriage rates it’s not caused by any one reason. Go ask a few unmarried people and you will get many answers. For me it was the huge fiscal risks, picking just one person forever, plus the lack of compelling benefits (it is a great area if I’ll end up with higher income taxes).

  3. Sex as a reason to get married sounds like something that could cloud judgement and add undue pressure towards bad pairings.

  4. By this article’s logic humanity will be doomed the day we merge a halfway decent AI with a humanoid robot. Surely those seeking sexual gratification will turn to those instead of marriage.


#17

I guess this is more aimed at men - why they are reluctant to marry. I do agree with the point previously made - they get what they want without marriage, so why do it. The sexual revolution played into the hands of that. Why are we surprised?


#18

The study doesn’t say that porn is the only reason marriage rates have declined, so many seem to be reading too much into the article.

There are many reasons that marriage rates have declined. The one I keep hearing is that there are few ‘suitable’ candidates, and no one seems to have time for ‘courting’.

The notion that one must develop an infatuation with ones potential spouse or they would not be ‘suitable’, i.e. ‘marrying for love’ is at the heart of this disaster. Infatuation is not love, but our big media has successfully sold this idea to the population of the popular culture. Infatuation is a temporary mental illness, while actual love is something that grows from getting to know a person well that one ‘clicks’ with. Many are taught the idea that one cannot find suitable love with a person that is classified as a friend prior.

The traditional motivations are seriously compromised. There is no shame to premarital sex any more, even among regular church goers. Porn, while it is a poor second to marriage, is a cheap and easily available release that inures men to normal sex with normal women. I am reminded of a Seinfeld episode where he watches porn and begins to compare it with real life, noting the contrast between reality and porn plot shapes. Also, the social norms and social experience that many used to have universally are no longer universal. Many younger people simply find real face-to-face relationships in real 3D to be too bothersome. Cant count how many times I have heard that texting is better than meeting in real life because the social ‘handshakes’ are not required. But for the greater society, such social experience is required.

The greatest benefits of marriage are primarily the kids you will have in your later years and the companionship of another person to share your life with.

Now that I am in my later fifties, I find my wife to be irreplaceable and cannot imagine life without her. She fulfills all my needs for companionship and finding satisfaction in life. She could be a better conversationalist, but that is just her personality and I more than make up the difference for the both of us. :smiley: My kids are my greatest joy aside from my wife, and I love them dearly, but the love my wife and I have for them does not lead them to think that they are missing out on having that same love for kids, and both have told me that they do not plan to have kids.

A person that used to be a friend of mine has been ‘hooking up’ and avoiding marriage in other ways for the last 30+ years and finally got married as he approaches fifty years old. How will he have children? He says he wants them, but he is realistic and acknowledges that it wont happen. He says his mistake was choosing to have more toys instead of a few children back when he was young and able. He just didn’t see the choice he was making until it was too late. This is one major reason why we used to have these societal norms, so that generations wouldn’t have to learn from irreversible mistakes.

I know it is unkind of me to say this, but of the traditional, biblical Christian people I know and have known there has been no slow down of marriage, except among their kids but even that plague has been greatly reduced in comparison to most. Traditional minded people will continue to have children while the professional less religious minded will have fewer and lose their proportion of the population.

And the meek will continue to inherit the Earth.


#19

and yet, for all that, the wedding business is bigger than it’s ever been, and churches and reception halls are booked a year in advance.


#20

If each couple of the professionals has only 1 child then their child will inherint the wealth of two people; and if each couple of the traditionally minded has 4 children, each child will inherint 1/2 of what each of its parents had. Thus, the professionals, while less numerous, will be growing richer, and the traditionally-minded will be growing poorer. Social advance will not be possible, as professional education requires an increasing amount of money.

Or, a narrow elite reproducing via IVF will rule the world keeping the meek as slaves.


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