[quote=“TK421, post:177, topic:457322, full:true”]
Criminals should not be dehumanized. They are people who have a conscience - albeit most of them have experienced abuse in some fashion. A neglectful parent. An aggresive parent. etc.
I’m not dehumanizing anyone, but I have a right and a duty to protect my family from them.
Europe has criminals, but only a small minority ever go to the lengths to acquire a gun. That is because the background culture isn’t a gun culture. They don’t feel coerced into getting one. That and it is more difficult to find one, even through an illicit market.
Again, it doesn’t matter what Europe does. We are not Europe. The US doesn’t not have a gun culture. We have a culture of individual rights, which includes the right to keep and bear arms.
We’ve seen in numerous European countries that the loss of arms rights cost many others. We’ve seen governments of Europe kill thousands or millions of their own civilians. If you want to stop gun violence, disarm governments, because that is where the vast amount of gun violence is perpetrated. And Europe has seen its share.
The pattern goes something like this: population has guns. Stakes are raised. Criminal population responds by having guns. Stakes are raised. Nonlethal crime is converted into lethal crime. This is why I have called the US gun culture an Arms Race. It is an Arms Race between the general population and the criminal population. The general population has guns ergo the criminal population is coerced into getting guns. It is a cause-and-effect repeating loop.
So you having a gun is not a private issue. It does matter.The civil authorities have the God-given right to take it away form you if they choose to do that, and you would be obliged to obey. Gun ownership, along with SSM and abortion, might be considered a right in the US, but the US is run by men
It still isn’t your business if I exercise my right, as long as I, personally, don’t harm you or another with it. Government’s job is to stop the criminal, stop the criminal from using arms, all the while protecting the rights of law abiding citizens. My having a gun is no excuse for someone else using a gun against another outside self defense or defense of another.
The civilian authority does not have any rights. Government doesn’t have rights. Individuals do have rights.
Government does not have the authority or power to take arms away from the people, because it is an inherent right, one protected by the constitution. And I would be obliged to defend my rights.