Should Christians own


#1

Hi all
I was wondering what you all thought about this question.

Should a Christian own a bar?
Do you think that it could be a stumbling block to some? and if it is, do you think that it is wrong.
Thanks.


#2

Good thought provoking question. I say yes, provided Christian guidelines are followed. Respect and modesty in waitstaff, over consumption should be denied. A nice Christian atmosphere to have a drink or two with friends would be nice.


#3

Depends on the situation.

Obviously, in theory, if alcohol is permissable, then bar-owning is permissable. But in certain cases, local considerations would make it unwise, or even sinful.

The most important thing is that the bar owner be virtuous, and look out for the welfare of his customers.


#4

As a Catholic I do not mind an occasional drink of alcohol as there is nothing wrong with alcohol. I am a hesitant to enter into any business which could lead to the sin of others. This includes a bar, casino, night club, etc. Though it was always my dream to own a casino as a teenager, now that I have come back to the Church I have kinda left that behind.

I am sure if run properly, a bar would be a great place for friendship and comraderie.

God Bless
Scylla


#5

I think it depends on the situation. Saying that, I think the fact that you are asking that question should give you a clue to the answer your seeking.:hmmm:


#6

What would Chesterton say about it?

I think he’d be okay with the concept.


#7

Hey, my grandfather owned a pub and he was a Christian.

I don’t see anything wrong with it as long as you run it with Christian principles.


#8

Only denominations which forbid alcohol should own bars, since they obviously would not touch the vile stuff themselves. And soon they would be out of business because the alcohol would of course evaporate into thin air. (No, really, it evaporates…)


#9

Listen to your heart. There you shall find the answer.


#10

Would Jesus own a bar? I wonder…


#11

If owning a bar is sinful, then I guess we shouldn’t own restaurants, either, because people sin by overeating, too.


#12

If He did He wouldn’t have to worry about the cost of wine… :wink: And if you got a little too tipsy He probably would just turn yours back into water… :slight_smile:


#13

singinbeauty,

Your reply cracked me up! Thanks for the laugh, that was well timed. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:


#14

Are you going to host Theology on Tap?


#15

[quote=TPJCatholic]Would Jesus own a bar? I wonder…
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That Jesus would not own a bar is not the point. There is nothing wrong owning a bar if it is run properly in a Christian manner.
Jesus had nothing against drinking alcohol. He, too, drank wine.


#16

thistle,

Obviously there is nothing wrong with drinking.

My question is still valid when it comes to trying to discern whether or not to open a bar: would Jesus own a bar?

Jesus was the son of a carpenter and He learned the trade of a carpenter. Jesus could have chosen any family, yet He chose Mary and He chose Joseph and He knew that He would be raised in a carpenters home…we should not just ignore those facts.


#17

[quote=TPJCatholic]thistle,

Obviously there is nothing wrong with drinking.

My question is still valid when it comes to trying to discern whether or not to open a bar: would Jesus own a bar?

Jesus was the son of a carpenter and He learned the trade of a carpenter. Jesus could have chosen any family, yet He chose Mary and He chose Joseph and He knew that He would be raised in a carpenters home…we should not just ignore those facts.
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I understand what you are saying but if you took it further then none of us would be employed as anything except carpenters but that was not the intention. For me his choice is not so much telling us what type of job or business we should be in (of course it must not be criminal or immoral) but more telling me that whatever we do should be done with humility, honesty and in Christian virtue.
I live in the Philippines which is 85% Catholic, with a further 10% non-Catholic Christians, the remaining 5% Muslims. If it would be construed as wrong or somehow immoral for a Christian to own a bar then there would be none in the entire country.


#18

When I was a little girl growing up, the Free Methodist church had a missionary visiting…Now I have to stop & say that the FMC was & is totally opposed to drinking alcoholic beverages, on any occasion, other than medical.
Anyhow, this man told us about this gentleman who had been part of one of those odd religions that still exist in some parts of the world, where they worship a whole pantheon of “gods”, try to talk to the dead,& sacrifice animals…Real creepy stuff. People–Catholic, Protestant, whatever, were afraid of him. He was a scary, potentially dangerous person.
Anyhow this guy came to the church, he became a Christian believer, & turned away from all that, but he had one big problem: It was a poor country, he had little or no education, and the only job he ever had was running this little tavern. He asked this missionary what he could do. Well, he didn’t know what to tell him, but one evening, he decided to visit the place, just to see how this fellow was doing.
That place, he said, was incredible. People were coming in, & asking for prayer. They were reading their Bibles over a couple of glasses of wine…
The missionary told the guy, if he wanted to join the church, he’d take him any day. “He was doing what they did in the Bible”, he told us. “He was reaching out to people right where they are.”

The point of this is: I don’t have a definitive answer to the question, but I know of at least one man who turned his little bar into a place of peace…
Oh, yeah, and the guys with the “ghosts” & that stuff? They moved right out of the neighborhood…The whole area was changed.

( anyhow::twocents: ).
God bless.


#19

By sheer logic, ALL bar owners and patrons MUST be Catholic. There is no way that Baptists and Mormons alone could support all the bars that are open.:rolleyes:


#20

You could also ask, should a Christian own a bookstore? A video store? A gun store? A bakery?


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