I have been noticing some things and I really must say that I don’t understand them.
Why do Eastern Orthodox people come here to post? I am not saying that you can’t come here or that you shouldn’t come here but a lot of what is going on here is Catholics argueing with Eastern Orthodox people about stuff and that just seems to me to belong on the Non Catholic Groups forum, not the Eastern Catholic Forum.
Another part of this is why do Eastern Orthodox, not all but many, come here just to argue? Do you think that if you can beat up a Catholic on an internet forum that you will be able to steal Eastern Catholics away from Christ and Catholicism?
Another thing about this that troubles me is why do Eastern Orthodox go out of their way to try to convert Eastern Catholics because they think it is somehow better to not be Catholic, anything but Catholic, but they don’t care about me? If it really were somehow better, and I really can’t see how for the life of me, to be outside the Catholic Church than in, why would you only be worried about people based on their ritual or ethnicity? You don’t care at all that I am in the Catholic Church. You don’t want to convert me, you just want to slap my face to say that I am somehow just wrong because I am not Eastern European or Middle Eastern. Eastern Orthodox basically tell me that I am not welcome in their churches because my skin in the wrong color or because I know Latin. I have to say, I just don’t get that.
And Finally, a question to my Eastern Catholic brothers and sisters. Why do you care so much about what the Eastern Orthodox think of you? I understand that you have your Eastern Identity and that it isn’t Latin but that is not what I am talking about. I have seen on these forums Eastern Catholics denouncing the Catholic Church that they are a part of because they want to be more Eastern. I don’t get that. Some Eastern Catholics are adopting very recent modifications to their liturgies and devotions because the Eastern Orthodox are adopting them. Isn’t there something wrong with that. I thought Eastern Catholicism was for Catholics who use Eastern rites, not simply to be a mirror image of Eastern Orthodoxy. Just because Eastern Orthodoxy adopts a new saint or ritual or prayer does not mean that Eastern Catholics should just follow suit. Don’t you all have your own leadership for that. I know the Eastern Orthodox don’t care what you think of them, so why do you care so much how they see you.
I think I kind of see what it going on. EO wants to say that EC are invalid and will point to anything to do it. So they change their prex and if they EC does not follow suit they will be called Latinized, or heretical for another reason. But it is the EO that is changing, not EC.
And it isn’t just ritual. Thought and theology that was once very firmly held by EC but has been altered by the EO are having an effect on the EC. Why would a EC member tell me that unleavened bread was invalid for Mass if this was not the case?
I must say it really bothers me when Eastern Catholics buddy up with people outside of the Catholic Church but won’t be deal with Latin because they just are Latins. Last time I checked, the patriarch in Moscow had ZERO authority in the actual Catholic Church.
Yah, Yah I understand Oecumenism and all that but the facts remain.
So someone please tell me, is this a forum for talking about Catholic, specifically Eastern Catholic issues or is this a Eastern Orthodox Forum for talking about how Eastern Catholics should do as the Eastern Orthodox tell them and break with the Catholic Church. If this is just a Eastern Orthodox versus Eastern Catholic Forum I will be happy to just spend my time on the traditional Catholicism forum discouraging schism there.
I don’t mean to be offensive in any of this but really, I have been wondering about this.