Smokeless Fire


#1

Exodus: The bush was burning, but not consumed by the flames. Is this “smokeless fire”?

The Muslims believe the Jinn were created from such things. Are these stories connected?


#2

Exodus happened around either the 1400s or 1200s B.C. The religion of Islam didn’t exist until the 7th century A.D. Therefore there is no connection.


#3

Since smoke is a byproduct of something’s being consumed by fire, and since this was a non-consuming fire, it’s logical to assume that the fire would be smokeless.

The reference about the djinn is Qur’an 15:27, which says, “And the Djinn race; We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind;” literally, from the fire of the “simoom” (link below). So this is not talking about a literal fire; just a hot wind. Even if it were talking about a literal fire, there’s no mention of smokelessness, and even if there were a mention of smokelessness, a fire can be scorching and smokeless without being non-consuming.

The fire that Moses saw was a miraculous theophany, designed to grab his attention.

Simoom: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simoom


#4

…that logic makes no sense…


#5

I guess the Christians believed in Guardian Angels: beings that are assigned by God to watch over certain people.

The Muslims took it one step further and claim that Satan chooses a demon for each person. This creature is known as a Jinn and the belief is so strong that there are courts today in Muslim countries that will excuse evil deeds if the accused can demonstrate that a Jinn was involved.

I guess the Muslims take it back to a story about Solomon putting “troublesome spirits” into bottles and lamps. He did this using a Solomon’s ring a magic item that allowed him to control spirits.


#6

If God wants to put a newspaper into a fire and have the newspaper not even singe let alone burn than He can do that if He wants.

He can make a helium balloon sink to the bottom of the ocean and make a big ship float in the sky if He wants.

God is not constrained by laws, remember He created the world so He can do what He wants with it.


#7

It makes no sense to not give a reason for saying that something makes no sense.


#8

Makes no sense to be jerk for no reason.


#9

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