So let's talk about today's readings 10/11/09

October 11, 2009

Reading 1
Wis 7:7-11

I prayed, and prudence was given me;
I pleaded, and the spirit of wisdom came to me.
I preferred her to scepter and throne,
and deemed riches nothing in comparison with her,
nor did I liken any priceless gem to her;
because all gold, in view of her, is a little sand,
and before her, silver is to be accounted mire.
Beyond health and comeliness I loved her,
and I chose to have her rather than the light,
because the splendor of her never yields to sleep.
Yet all good things together came to me in her company,
and countless riches at her hands.

Responsorial Psalm
Ps 90:12-13, 14-15, 16-17

R. (14) Fill us with your love, O Lord, and we will sing for joy!
Teach us to number our days aright,
that we may gain wisdom of heart.
Return, O LORD! How long?
Have pity on your servants!
R. Fill us with your love, O Lord, and we will sing for joy!
Fill us at daybreak with your kindness,
that we may shout for joy and gladness all our days.
Make us glad, for the days when you afflicted us,
for the years when we saw evil.
R. Fill us with your love, O Lord, and we will sing for joy!
Let your work be seen by your servants
and your glory by their children;
and may the gracious care of the LORD our God be ours;
prosper the work of our hands for us!
Prosper the work of our hands!
R. Fill us with your love, O Lord, and we will sing for joy!

Reading II
Heb 4:12-13 Brothers and sisters:
Indeed the word of God is living and effective,
sharper than any two-edged sword,
penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow,
and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart.
No creature is concealed from him,
but everything is naked and exposed to the eyes of him
to whom we must render an account.

Gospel
Mk 10:17-30 or 10:17-27

As Jesus was setting out on a journey, a man ran up,
knelt down before him, and asked him,
“Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
Jesus answered him, “Why do you call me good?
No one is good but God alone.
You know the commandments: You shall not kill;
you shall not commit adultery;
you shall not steal;
you shall not bear false witness;
you shall not defraud;
honor your father and your mother.”
He replied and said to him,
“Teacher, all of these I have observed from my youth.”
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said to him,
“You are lacking in one thing.
Go, sell what you have, and give to the poor
and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.”
At that statement his face fell,
and he went away sad, for he had many possessions. Jesus looked around and said to his disciples,
“How hard it is for those who have wealth
to enter the kingdom of God!”
The disciples were amazed at his words.
So Jesus again said to them in reply,
“Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
than for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
They were exceedingly astonished and said among themselves,
“Then who can be saved?”
Jesus looked at them and said,
“For human beings it is impossible, but not for God.
All things are possible for God.”
Peter began to say to him,
“We have given up everything and followed you.”
Jesus said, “Amen, I say to you,
there is no one who has given up house or brothers or sisters
or mother or father or children or lands
for my sake and for the sake of the gospel
who will not receive a hundred times more now in this present age:
houses and brothers and sisters
and mothers and children and lands,
with persecutions, and eternal life in the age to come.”
or
As Jesus was setting out on a journey, a man ran up,
knelt down before him, and asked him,
“Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
Jesus answered him, “Why do you call me good?
No one is good but God alone.
You know the commandments: You shall not kill;
you shall not commit adultery;
you shall not steal;
you shall not bear false witness;
you shall not defraud;
honor your father and your mother.”
He replied and said to him,
“Teacher, all of these I have observed from my youth.”
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said to him,
“You are lacking in one thing.
Go, sell what you have, and give to the poor
and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.”
At that statement his face fell,
and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.
Jesus looked around and said to his disciples,
“How hard it is for those who have wealth
to enter the kingdom of God!”
The disciples were amazed at his words.
So Jesus again said to them in reply,
“Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
than for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
They were exceedingly astonished and said among themselves,
“Then who can be saved?”
Jesus looked at them and said,
“For human beings it is impossible, but not for God.
All things are possible for God.”

“I prayed, and prudence was given me”
– I wonder why wisdom in this reading is decribed in a feminine tense.
We have God the Father , male
Jesus, another male
Even the holy spirit is spoken of in male terms.
All the angels in the bible mentioned are in male terms too.
Yet the spirit of wisdom is spoken of in female terms.
What is it about wisdom, prudence, sensibility, that is feminine, even in the
times when most women were ignored or were legal property? Their testimony
in court didn’t even count. Most of the women even in Jesus’ time were not
mentioned, and Mary’s geneology is not even recorded in the bible, only Joseph’s.
Yet, for some reason, way back then, wisdom is spoken of in the feminine.

“Return, O LORD! How long?”
– Lots of people pray this. “Maranatha”, they say. I don’t ever say this, because
there are still people left in this world, who have not laid down their life to Jesus.
We have to get everybody, and not leave anyone behind, because how can we
show our face in heaven without our loved ones? Even if all our loved ones were
converted, how can we just not care about everyone else?

“the eyes of him
to whom we must render an account.”
– What kind of account? Must we give an account of every person we were
given to share our faith with, and how we did it?

“Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said to him,
“You are lacking in one thing””
– What an exceptional young man he was! Lacking in only one thing.
If I sold all I had an gave it to the poor, I don’t think that would be enough.

So what struck you about today’s readings? :bible1::twocents:

It made me so sad when “At that statement his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions,” because so many people remind me of this poor guy.

Also all the songs we sang today were all overwhelmingly about the beatitudes. My favorite is the one that those who are persecuted for Christ’s sake will inherit the kindgom.:):slight_smile:

Was that hymn “Be Not Afraid”?

I was wondering, who is the person or thing they refer to as “her” in the first reading? Is it the church?

I think it refers to the wisdom he receives.

Thank God!! I think I finally found the right place to ask this question. The passage in todays Gospel has always perplexed me. I make it a point to research some part of the Sunday readings as a way to deepen my knowledge of the Bible. I have always wondered why it is almost universally assumed that the Rich Man failed to follow the instructions given to him by Christ. It doesn’t specifically say so, unless I’m seriously mistaken. I’m wondering if there’s a reason why this is always interpreted this way? Are we projecting our own inability to remove sin and sinful behaviors and thoughts permenantly form our lives? Couldn’t we take a more charitable interpretation and assume that the man went and did as he was instructed, but was sad to get rid of all his stuff? Do any of us find it difficult to eshew our wordlyness?

No, and here’s why: remember that merchant who found the “pearl of great price”?
He sold everything he had With Joy, to go and buy that pearl. And remember that man who found buried treasure in a field? He went off rejoicing to sell everything he
had and buy that field. Those 2 men didn’t lack what the rich young man lacked.
If he didn’t lack it, he would have went away happy, and did what Jesus said with joy.
Who knows? maybe someday in the future he did change his mind, like the story
of the 2 brothers, when one brother told his dad “no”, but then went and did it anyway.
But it’s just like any of the people who Jesus cast demons out of: who knows but
that in the future 7 more could have moved in? Or the woman caught in adultery:
who knows whether or not she ignored Jesus instruction to “go now and sin no more?”

p.s. – I have a son who agree with you. He said, “if he wasn’t about to lose all his
possessions, then why else would he be sad?”

Sorry aboutt he previous post. Still learning this thing.

I really appreciate your response. Still, it would seem from your response that there is no specific reference within scripture as to what the man did after leaving. I think your reasoning is sound and makes good sense, but it is an inference. I think your right though. He should have rejoiced at receiving an answer to his request. I guess I would hope that on his way he might have found the joy. Thanks.

Why does Jesus say “no one is good but God alone” if He IS God?? :confused:

Because if he still insisted, then he would have to admit that Jesus is God.

I would hope so too. But don’t you think something else would have to happen for
him to change his mind? If Jesus saying this to him in person wasn’t enough, then
what might happen to him, or even just in his mind, to make him see what an
opportunity he was given?

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