Since the other threasd on Sola Scriptura reached the 1,000 post limit we need to create a new thread to carry on the discussion. The last entry in the other post was:
Originally Posted by ezeekl
But in just 500 years the idea of sola scriptura has changed. Previously sola scriptura meant that scripture was the only authority. That was what sola meant- only or alone (and still does). Now sola scriptura means, using your own words, “highest authority”. That inherently implies the existence of lesser authority. So protestantism has gone from only one authority to more than one authority.”
“False; you’ve clearly never read the Lutheran Confessions.”
Actually I have. That is why I said that the idea of sola scriptura has changed. Also, I know some Latin and therefore I know that sola does not mean “final” or highest. It means alone or only. Rather to convey the idea of final or finality the Latin word finis or *fini * meaning end or last would be far better. As far as conveying the idea of highest authority the Latin word altissimus would be far better. Also, let us not forget that the Lutheran Confessions were compiled approx 1580 according the website “bookofconcord” wherein it states:
“The Lutheran Confessions represent the result of more than 50 years of earnest endeavor by Martin Luther and his followers to give Biblical and clear expression to their religious convictions.”
It took them 50 years to sort things out and they still did not get it right. They didn’t change the word *sola * to fini or altima.
I think that I need to point out here that the Lutheran Confessions contain three essential Catholic creeds. They being the Apostles Creed, The Nicene Creed and the Anathasian Creed. Does it seem at least a bit odd that Lutherans who deny the authority of the Catholic bishops hold up these creeds that were formulated by Catholic bishops? And not only that but the Anathasian Creed goes into great detail about the Trinity and really formulates how we understand the Trinity today. But this understanding did not come from scripture. It came from the Catholic Church. We understand the Trinity in pagan Greek philosophy terms of substance, essence and person. These ideas are not found in scripture nor even Jewish philosophical thought. The Jews thought of God as one, not three persons in one God, just one God.
But who was Athanasius? Athanasius was a bishop in the Catholic Church. In effect the Lutheran Confessions, while denying Church Authority, are actually verifying that a Catholic Bishop had the authority to supplement scripture with teaching. Athanasius was the twentieth bishop of Alexandria. His episcopate lasted 45 years from June, 328 through May, 373 AD. He was also the guy who gave us the canon of scripture that became the Bible. Indeed, many protestants point to Athanasius as the father of the Bible canon. I find that odd as well. Here are protestants claiming that the books of the Bible are the final authority yet those books in the Bible were selected by a Catholic bishop! So the authority of the Bible rests on the authority of a Catholic Bishop who protestants say has no authority!!! Seems to me that the real final authority rests not with the scripture but rather with Catholic bishops which is what the Catholic Church has said all along. And once again we come back to the binding and loosening power stated in scripture in Mt 16.