There is a class of Protestant Christians or what they may label themselves as Born Again that do not believe in history. It seems as though they believe the Bible is a mystical book with cosmic origins that fell from the firmenent to the earth and into the hands of the Christian people.
I watched or rather listened to a debate on youtube that had Dave Hunt and Keaton in a debate. Hunt said something to the effect that the first century Christians were not christians. So basically not even the echo of the apostles sometimes refered to as the Apostles apsotles or second generation apostles were christian. He said that from the first century Church and on the Church was not “Christian”. He also stated that the Bible was the only source. Keaton made good points but I felt he should have not just cited the Church Fathers but also scripture because he kinda made Hunts point that he wouldn’t use the Bible to argue his points. Keaton did use some scripture but not ebough in my opinion.
Keaton could have ended the debate by simply saying that since the first century Church and their clergy were not true Christians and were so there after that the third and fourth century Christian Church was just herectical as the first. If the third and fourth century Church was herectical and what would later become the RCC and the OC’s and they formed the Bible that would mean the Bible was herectical and any one reading from it was herectical as it was collected by herectical Christians as the Church had been herectical from after the deaths of the first apostles and begining of the first century church age. This would mean Dave Hunt and the rest of Christianity was herecticall and a false religion.
This seems almost like a form of mental illness.
I have no problem with Protestants since I’m married to one and my Best friend is one and many of people I love are. I believe they are just as Christian as Catholics and Orthodox Christians. I believe many of them will go to heaven. I worry more about the Calvinistic ones who adhere to assurance of salvation in the form of once save ways saved as it is presumptious and doesn’t allow for there to be any examination of conscious or any spiritual growth in living a gracefull life through abstaining from sin.
My best friend is of this persuation and although he does believe in OSAS as do many Christians today especially attending Non Denominational Churches I don’t worry about him so much because I know he at least regularly repents his sins. He also is very Godly and a good husband and family man.
For me its frustrating with these types Christian Protestants who reject Bibical history as I have known so many well balanced and versed protestants. My wife and her family are Nazarene that’s a Wesleyan denomination branched off from Methodist and then from Pentecostal to the form it became minus speaking in tongues. They read some of the writings of the Church fathers or at least the Pastors who go through Seminary. From what I understand is that Much of their Seminary involves reading Catholic material. I’ve generally had good experiences with them and when I was younger and not a true practicing Catholic I was baptised a second time. It was a pretty amazing experience. I felt a sense of cleanlyness an purity. So I guess I’m a born again revert.
Confirmed in 2010 been practing since 2011. Got my Mariage reconized in 2012 and working on getting all my Children baptised.
Anyways how do you deal with this behavior along with those who only believe th KJV has authority or other obscurities?
What is the reasoning behind rejection of Church and Bible History?