[quote="PolarGuy, post:5, topic:316007"]
Actually, eyesopening, my complaint about the "Moral Theology" section is that it is less often relating to true "moral theology" and more often is essentially a meeting of the "scrupulous anonymous" society, where many posts begin with "I suffer from OCD..." and perpetuate the stereotypes of Catholics as sin-obsessed loons.
But that's another matter.
As to your post, I lurk often and I don't really see much disagreement over the morality of many actions, save 1: Artificial birth control. I believe that mimics the division in the Church laity as to that subject.
Part of the reason, in my opinion, is that the Church's position is a) very difficult to square with real world realities; and b) is propounded by the clergy, who axiomatically don't worry about childbirth & childrearing, providing for their children, etc.
As to the first - and the second is another matter -- an example would suffice. I know a husband & wife with 1 child. They wanted more and had several miscarriages. Then they learned that the wife suffers from a blood clotting disorder where getting pregnant could kill her. However, the Church -- whose leaders will never have to worry about getting pregnant, dying and leaving a baby without a mom, etc.** -- tell them they have 2 options:
1. Never have sex again; or
2. Be open to life (or death).
Both of those options are just very unfulfilling and unrealistic. Plus, these are happily married, churchgoing Catholics, mind you, in Mass every Sunday. It's bad enough that the Church offers them option 1 & 2, without option 3 -- use ABC to avoid getting pregnant. It's even worse that using option 3 -- and these are married folks, not kids fooling around -- gets these folks condemned as being in mortal sin and hence hellbound by others. Plus, look around at the posters on this board. That appears to include a wide spectrum of folks including nice people; good Christians; devout Churchgoers; antisocial weirdos; and...a really large number of the OCD sufferers... and a few people who appear to have no concept of interpersonal relationships, let alone married life, childbirth, etc., juding by their statements, their admissions as to their own lives, etc.
--Just my 2 cents.
Many things to think about in your post...but the highlighted parts are unconscionably wrongheaded, unjust and uncharitable...you really need to think hard about your condemnation of the Church leaders...bishops, pastors etc. If it pleases you, be mad at the Moral position of the Church on birth control...but branding the Church leaders as ignorant of practical crosses in everyday life...and that they are collectively unsympathetic and un-compassionate for the spiritual and physical well-being of their flock...husbands, wives and children...is really quite simply blatantly uncharitable on your part.
Simply put...they will die for you and me if called to do so...but they simply will not go to hell for us...by condemning themselves for teaching moral heresy.
Lastly the Mayo Clinic would disagree with your "life and death" scenario re: blood clots and pregnancy...there may be complications in the pregnancy in order to protect the mother s life...and there may be future complications for the mother based on her pre-pregnancy condition...but its not an un-treatable and un-workable scenario/situation. For sure, it is an incredible cross and a scary one...but it is not insurmountable either by medical means and/or the great graces garnered through the priest and the Body of Christ...the Church.
In practical life situation cases...don't summarily discount the support from the Church leaders...they will always be there for us no matter what the cross is that we have to carry. Their prayers and the graces that they can and do garner for us in our crosses of life and death...are the most powerful gifts they give us...they are cosmic...they are effective in time and into eternity. I have seen it...especially in priest-chaplains...and especially in combat...they have never failed us Marines in the toughest times/scenarios. I am proud and grateful to call them my priest and my friend.
Just my 2 cents...for your consideration