Sports before vatican II


#1

did the church discourage sports prior to the 1960s? especially for women.

I read something by pope pius XII saying women shouldn’t do gymnastics because it’s immodest. but hardly anyone ever condemns men’s sports or men’s ballet or anything like that.

I’m confused, when do we know if something is someone’s opinion, even if it’s a saint or pope versus actuaul sin?


#2

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Here is what he said re: Sports

“Sport, properly directed, develops character, makes a person courageous, a generous loser, and a gracious victor; it refines the senses, gives intellectual penetration, and steels the will to endurance. It is not merely a physical development then. Sport, rightly understood, is an occupation of the whole person, and while perfecting the body as an instrument of the mind, it also makes the mind itself a more refined instrument for the search and communication of truth….”

― Pope Pius XII


#3

well he did say something about girls not doing gymnastics too


#4

Are you reading Tradition In Action.org?


#5

no, someone posted a quote on here. can’t dig it up at the moment though. I remember it being legitimate though


#6

Pope Pius the XI addressed it, with regard to gymnastics in Convent schools…
In promoting modesty in dress for those under their charge, teaching sisters were complying with Rome’s decrees. In 1930 Pope Pius XI had directed the Sacred Congregation of the Council to issue a strongly-worded Letter on Christian Modesty to the whole world (as had Pope Benedict XV before him):

“Nuns, in compliance with the Letter dated August 23, 1928, by the Sacred Congregation of Religious, must not receive in their colleges, schools, oratories or recreation grounds, or, if once admitted, tolerate girls who are not dressed with Christian modesty; said Nuns, in addition, should do their utmost so that love for holy chastity and Christian modesty may become deeply rooted in the hearts of their pupils.”

The same message was reinforced in all Catholic schools, colleges and universities before the Council. The only concession made for gymnastics and sports in convent schools was shorts of the culotte type with boxed pleats reaching almost to the knee, and then only in an all-girl setting.


#7

and how do we deal with the change in these standards?


#8

We deal with it quite well.


#9

Honey, you are driving yourself crazy with this obsession of yours. Please, get some professional help. This kind of fixation will end up leading you out of the Church if you insist on bringing up bits and pieces of personal opinions that are not official Church teachings (even if they are from Popes and Saints) to worry and dwell over. You may play sports, wear pants, work outside the home, and get a college education. These are not matters over which your own salvation or that of others depends. Please, I beg you, get some help and stay away from sites that cause you such internal turmoil. Even if it means avoiding certain threads here on CAF for a while.


#10

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