**Step up! Step up! The ULTIMATE TLM vs. NO thread. **
Because I have nothing better to do, and because this issue is constantly rehashed on the boards, I’ve created this thread. Want to gripe about the ‘New’ Mass and extol the virtues the ‘old’? Do it here. Want to gripe about the ‘Old’ Mass and praise the new. Do it here.
Think of this thread as the Patrologia Latina of such threads. Instead of repeating the same argument ad nauseum in different threads, just mention ‘Refer Post 3, Argument 5’ or ‘Refer post 4, Tangent 2, Counter Argument 3’. This thread can enable you to speak your mind on:
Does Trent anathemize the vernacular or the non-silent Canon?
Quo Primum and the applications of Ecclesia DeiDoes the Novus Ordo express the fullness of Catholic doctrine?
Vocations, piety and the fruits of the Mass
Novus Ordo? A Protestant Plot!
The Vernacular- Foundation for the Future or Destruction of the Past?
A Study on Personal Preference and attendance at the Sacrifice of the Mass
God oriented or man centered?
Give me the TLM/NO or give me death!!
Should posters wish to advertise their opinions beforehand so that others not aware of the intricacy of the forum and the usual affiliations can read their posts with a biased mind, kindly pick a number from 1 to 10.
1 representing the ‘Up NO! Long live Vatican II! Down with grandfather methods of worship’
10 representing ‘Long live the TLM, sustaining many saints that could not be changed! Woe the travesty that has befallen us and the foolishness of the modern mindset in succumbing! Is our Holy Mother the Church perilously close to apostasy?
Who is the brave soul who will make the first post and go down in the history of the Forums as having initiated the greatest thread of all time, this testament to the young, the uninformed, the future forum members, of this intricate controversy?
Let the games begin! http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/16.gif
P.S. for those who wish to twack others on the head with them, here are some useful links
The Vatican website
Documents of the Second OEcumenical Council of the Vatican
Canons and decrees of the Holy and Oecumenical Council of Trent
Papal Encyclicals. (direct link to Quo Primum)
The Order of the Mass of 1962
The Order of the Mass of 1970
The Baltimore Catechism
The Catechism of the Catholic Church
The Catechism of Trent
Catechism of St. Pius X
The Catholic Encyclopedia
A goodly selection of the Fathers (just in case)