STUDY: All job growth in the U.S. since 2000 went to immigrants - legal or illegal


#1

Link to article

From article:
LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - There were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level. These were the findings as presented by CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler.

Overall, immigrants recovered far more substantially from the Great Recession of 2008. Immigrants also held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession.

In contrast, immigrants have made gains across the labor market, including lower-skilled jobs such as maintenance, construction, and food service; middle-skilled jobs like office support and health care support; and high*er-skilled jobs, including management, computers, and health care practitioners.


#2

America has a terrible problem. Tens of millions of Americans have given up on education, have given up on ever finding an honest job. Entire generations of native born Americans have dropped out of the productive economy. Immigration and employment laws are ignored so immigrants flood in our open borders to take the jobs. The political elites, i.e. the Left, see this as a political victory as both the underclass and the immigrants vote Left. The US is being transformed into an secular socialist country, something entirely different than it has been.


#3

They don’t usually “take the jobs” though. At the lower end they are doing jobs that Americans don’t want to do - especially at the wages offered, such as agricultural fieldwork and janitorial work. While at the upper end as a former Executive Recruiter we searched the nation looking for people with upper level skills, education and experience. We didn’t hire immigrants but qualified Americans were very hard to find. I was recruiting for manufacturing companies, looking for CEOs, CFOs, Operations managers, senior engineers etc. I currently live in Germany and this nation which is about the size of Montana manufactures more than the US. And significant high value goods such as cars: VW, BMW, Audi, Porsche are all German and no one over here drives American cars.

Two issues not mentioned by previous posters are

  1. The hollowing out of middle class, middle level jobs. This is often why we could not find managers with enough experience as the middle tier of management has been eliminated and it is very difficult for people to gain the experience they need.

  2. Lack of education in the right fields. The USA is not producing enough graduates or skilled employees in maths, engineering, technology and I.T. India for example refocused it’s education system about 30 years ago to focus on these fields and that is why their many well qualified graduates are being recruited around the world.

In other words it’s easy to blame immigrants when the problems in the USA as so much more to do with how Americans have chosen to structure the economy, market and education system.


#4

I saw on TV that the best car engine…is a Ford!

I drive a jetta tdi.

But the other issue is that IT jobs are being replaced by foreign workers and they will be paid much less.

The blame is on the untouchable, nationless transnationals, whose profits make combined income of low and working class americans be may be less than 5% compared to theirs. Our present administration is hand in hand with the transnationals, and Washington, DC is now the richest city in the country and has no big companies or factories in it.


#5

The article makes it sound so horrible, but it seems to me that certain basic facts are missing.

Second generation and later Americans have had sub-replacement fertility rates since about 1970. So the fact that immigrants have gotten all the newly created jobs since 2000 doesn’t really alarm me that much since they are the only demographic that is actually growing.

Think about it, how WOULD the number of jobs held by second generation or later Americans grow if the population of that group hasn’t grown?

I don’t have the actual numbers, but if you take a population of 260 Million and about 40% of that is employed (excluding kids, retired, homeparents and unemployed) that’s about 104M jobs. Now add 30M immigrants and 12M new jobs and you have the SAME number of that original 260M having a job. Yeah, all the gained jobs went to the newcomers. Who else would they go to? I see very few teachers, plumbers, engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, stock brokers, salesmen or other jobs that are in demand firing Americans and hiring illegal immigrants. Those folks are getting jobs working in landscaping, day labor construction, agriculture, restaurants, janitorial, factory assembly and other unskilled jobs that Americans increasingly just don’t want. Seriously, who here knows somebody who was fired from their job and replaced by an illegal immigrant?

As the boomers start dying out, the percentages will really start changing since Boomers had about half as many kids as their parents.


#6

Well, that’s all well and good, but that’s not what the article said.

Overall, immigrants recovered far more substantially from the Great Recession of 2008. Immigrants also held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession.

Along with the conclusions drawn from the study…

And a further problem, not mentioned in the article, is that those who tell us that immigration causes sufficient increase in the economy to support the immigrants–well, as it turns out, this is apparently not true.


#7

I read a title of an article I didn’t have time to further read, that more native white Americans are passing away vs those being born.

The Hispanics are likewise reducing family size to two children.

The USA is promoting abortion, contraception, and now gay marriage all over the world, that is their aim.

I was studying a Catholic study series for women and the study was finally ok’d because the study upheld Humane Vitae. When we go to that chapter, they became upset with the prohibition of birth control – because of the lives of the poor Africans. I told them that the Africans love their children and they have a low mortality rate, the country I served in at that time, people lived at most to age 45.

It went over their head and they still were upset.

A few weeks ago I spoke with some African immigrants from Sub Sahara Africa. I told them about this and they became animated…then I said, ‘OH, no, you don’t want children…’…and they couldn’t believe American Catholics were so upset that they continued to have children.

The Africans said they would prefer to be bombed rather than be deprived of having families and use the pill.

They said the big problem with foreigners in their countries is that they want to change the African people rather than accept and work with them, and they said the Communist Chinese were much easier to work with.


#8

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