My dear. Please talk when you know what you are talking about. Is it every one here that talks un knowingly?
What pamphlet have I shared with you on Sufism? Sufism is mainstream Islam. You have Sunni Sufis and Shite Sufis.
This book of Revelation is the first book of hadiths, and I can’t see how it is a secret if every Muslim and non Muslim have access to the whole collection of ahadith by the click of a mouse.
There is no such thing as hidden knowledge also, it’s just that certain things can not be released at certain times.
Please sit back and learn. You’re only getting me upset by talking un educatedly.
Allah subhana wa ta’ala controls EVERYTHING. It’s not up to be to bring some one close to Islam. It’s His job, and if some one is straying, I can’t help that either. I do not have the mystical powers to do that.
Are there any Sufi’s in Iran or Iraq right now? What total percentage of Islam do you represent? Do other Islamic people consider your sect of Islam to be unlawful by Islamic standards? Could some other Islamic people post in this thread who are not Sufi and shed some light on this?
Historically Sufi is right–Sufism is mainstream Islam. The idea that it isn’t comes from that “Reformation” that Islam actually had (unfortunately) but which ill-informed people call for. Rather like Rishda Tarkaan calling for Tash.
Initially many orthodox Muslims were wary of Sufism, and there have always been forms of it that were seen as suspect. But for much of Islamic history it was a vibrant part of mainstream Islam.
Yes. No doubt you will disagree with me if I say that historically Kabbalah is mainstream Judaism as well, right?
That is what I was taught by Rabbi Kalman Bland at Duke. And the little independent reading I’ve done confirms this. It seems to me that in both Islam and Judaism the sidelining of these mystical traditions is a modern development. (Prof. Bland used to talk about the “Calvinization of world religion,” by which he meant the modern tendency to define all world religions in terms of doctrine and ethics rather than ritual or mysticism or magic.) But of course I could be wrong.
Of course modern Jews or Muslims can define themselves however they wish. But as far as I can tell, around, say, 1500 most Jews and most Muslims would have seen their mystical traditions as central and perfectly normal aspects of their faith, not as some bizarre sideshow.