Syria: Angela Merkel 'horrified' by suffering under Russian airstrikes


#1

theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/08/syrian-army-advances-in-north-as-rebels-withdraw-from-kurdish-villages

**Syria: Angela Merkel ‘horrified’ by suffering under Russian airstrikes

The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, has said she is “horrified” by the suffering caused by Russian bombing in Syria as pro-government forces backed by airstrikes came closer to encircling Aleppo.

Opposition activists and state media on Monday said Syrian army troops had taken the village of Kfeen, north of Aleppo, Syria’s largest city, while rebel forces have also withdrawn under bombing from three Kurdish villages.

Tens of thousands of civilians fleeing the Russian-backed advance on Aleppo remain stranded near the Turkish border, with no sign that the authorities in Ankara will respond to mounting international pressure to allow in more refugees.**

We have been, in the past few days, not just appalled but horrified by what has been caused in the way of human suffering for tens of thousands of people by bombing – bombing primarily from the Russian side,” Merkel said after a meeting with Turkey’s prime minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu. She said the two countries would push at the United Nations for all sides to stick to a resolution passed in December calling for a halt to attacks on the civilian population.

Merkel made clear that she considered Moscow’s current course of action a violation of the UN resolution since it directly targeted civilians.

The German foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, also criticised the attacks on Aleppo: “The dramatic pictures reaching us from the Syrian-Turkish border show one thing: those who think they can force a military solution to the conflict in Syrian are wrong”, he told Spiegel Online.
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Merkel made clear that she considered Moscow’s current course of action a violation of the UN resolution since it directly targeted civilians.**

“It may be possible to momentarily shift the balance of power. But everyone should know that in the long run this doesn’t bring us any closer to an end of the conflict. On the the contrary.” Prolonging the military conflict only played into Isis’ hands, Steinmeier said. “This can be in no one’s interest, including Russia’s”.

Davutoğlu said nobody should expect Turkey to shoulder the refugee crisis alone, and harshly criticised the ongoing attack on Aleppo. “There are almost 30,000 Syrians waiting at our border. …] The inhumane attack on Aleppo needs to stop as soon as possible.

“Aleppo is in effect under siege,” he said. “There is great pressure on Germany with regard to the refugees in Europe. Humanity is being tested in Syria, we have to face this test together.”

State-run news agency Sana said army troops on Monday took control of Kfeen “after wiping out the last group of terrorists there”. Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV also reported Kfeen’s capture and aired live footage from the village.

Syrian rebels have also withdrawn from three villages threatened by Russian airstrikes in the northern province of Aleppo that borders Turkey, allowing Kurdish fighters to overrun them, a monitor said on Monday.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the rebels abandoned the villages of Aqlamiyah, Deir Jamal and Mareanar on Sunday at the insistence of residents who feared their homes would be bombed.


#2

Some have postulated, Putin/Assad have sought to flood Europe with refugees by bombing civilians.

UN probe accuses Syria govt of ‘exterminating’ detainees

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“The mass scale of deaths of detainees suggests that the government of Syria is responsible for acts that amount to extermination as a crime against humanity,” commission head Paulo Pinheiro told reporters in Geneva.**

news.yahoo.com/un-probe-accuses-damascus-extermination-detainees-131405484.html
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Looks like there is a scale of offenses from War Crimes, as Al Nusra is accused of having committed to Crimes against Humanity as discussed above as ISIS and Assad are accused of.


#3

Well, whatever the intent of Putin and Assad, what they are doing is flooding Europe with masses of male Sunnis in particular.

Smart bombs that try to differentiate between targets are simply not a part of the Russian arsenal. Few armies have the kind of equipment that contain the kinds of weapons that are capable of limiting the civilian suffering.

The old standards of former bombing campaigns can only apply to armies that have the capability to make such differentiation between targets.


#4

That’s just how Russia fights.

: those who think they can force a military solution to the conflict in Syrian are wrong”,

lol, I bet they can. But then again, the Germans were incredibly useless in Afghanistan so I could get why they don’t understand war.


#5

She needs to see what her own people are suffering at the hand of Muslims invading Europe and stop inviting them all. Seems like Russia is doing a good job trying to stop ISIS as ISIS seems to be getting weaker with the help of Russia.
I don’t know what the US and other have been bombing for 2 years but don’t seem to of helped atall.


#6

Russia has killed more civilians than ISIS fighters per most reports.

ISIS is on its back heels in Iraq too, so Russia is not there.

Sure, the US and allied coalition could have done more; but reports show, Russia/Assad are doing a lot of indiscriminate bombing.


#7

America might want to reassess what kinds of damage it takes to demoralize enemy forces enough for them to want to sue for peace and end the war on the terms that the victor imposes on them.


#8

huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/syria-putin-assad_b_9169998.html

This article seems to suggest that Russia and Assad are actually on their way to a decisive military victory. I don’t want civilian casualties either, but it seems that Russia and Assad are trying to end the war as quickly as possible. It may not be a drawn-out war of attrition as has previously been conventional wisdom.

[quote= Huffington Post]"To put it baldly then, as things stand, Syria seems to be heading not towards a “quagmire” as many western politicians have suggested, but rather to a clear military outcome. As one knowledgable commentator noted, the negotiating table is not in Geneva. The true negotiations are taking place on the battlefields of Idlib and Aleppo – and what has just been negotiated is the near encirclement of rebel forces into a cauldron.

Nor, it seems, is Syria heading toward a low-intensity guerrilla war in the aftermath of any military victory on the ground. The scenes below, showing people’s jubilation when the Syrian Army and Hezbollah forces entered villages that had been retaken from rebel forces this week, tell a different story"
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#9

:thumbsup:


#10

I watch Alex jones, info wars and other media outlets some online also Russia today.
The US and UK news are all one sided and can only report what the governments say been the same since WW2.

They says Russia is bombing moderate rebels also the US armed these moderate rebels as you see them shoot the Russian rescue helicopter with a US weapon.
The US has said they have armed them and give them supplies.
But the thing is there is no moderate rebels they are all ISIS and other terrorist groups. That are allied with ISIS ans all worth together against Assad.

So i think since Russia has moved in and helped they are now on the back foot as ISIS has expended in the last 3 years.
How dose a reply army expand like that only by out side help with supplies.

I really do try to open more people up to the one sided stories are governments give out.
Im in the UK and its bad with cover ups in Europe ect.


#11

RT is basically the Russian Government. They’re also one sided.

And Russia IS bombing the moderate rebels we armed. Because currently those guys are the closest threat to the Syrian government. Some are Islamic crazies, some aren’t, but they certainly aren’t ISIS. Russia hasn’t done that much to ISIS yet because ISIS is farther away from Assad’s center of gravity.

No dark conspiracy, or reason to lie. Just standard strategic decisions.


#12

Russia fights to win. On their least of priorities Civilian Causalities and World Opinion is probably ranked somewhere around ensuring their forces have enough cheese.

When ISIS announced they were going to put civilian human shields on buildings I just assumed Russia would use them to identify targets.


#13

That may be, the point is Russia and the Regime government have not gone after ISIS with that much vigor if at times, also having their actions help ISIS.

Is Russia fighting ISIS at Aleppo? It sounds like not.


#14

Alex jones is from the US he quotes news from all around the world. Russia news is on the Russian side but they expose the UK and US People need to realise there are no moderate rebels they are all allied to ISIS US has indirectly armed ISIS.

Russia is doing a good job. US seems to topple dictators in the middle east then the counties go worst.

You need to get news from multiple places and then make up your mind.


#15

The FSA is a more immediate threat to Damascus than ISIS merely due to distance. Once Syria cleans up their lines and gets close to ISIS territory then you can expect airstrikes there.

From a strategic point of view it makes no sense to go after the guy across town when your neighbor is shooting at you.


#16

Actually Russia claims to have cooperated with the FSA: rt.com/news/325834-russia-strikes-support-fsa/

Also, stated intent was to fight ISIS, whether one wants to say something makes sense or it does not, that was their stated intent.


#17

The FSA is a threat to Assad, Russia’s client. They’re the guys that started the Civil War, ISIS came later. Russia is assuredly not working with the folks looking to overthrow Assad.


#18

There are several reports that Russia has worked with the the FSA. The FSA is also fighting ISIS.

So it’s either get rid of ISIS and hold a democratic election, in Syria - or Syria being ruled by ISIS. :shrug: When opponents have an even greater perceived enemy, to get rid off, such enemies will become comrades.


#19

For months Russia has been helping Mr Assad wipe out the very same opposition that was invited to Geneva to negotiate. **Mr Putin’s aim is to leave only two sides standing in Syria — the regime and Isis — and to challenge the world to make a choice.
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The Geneva fiasco was followed by another surreal Syrian event. As the number of refugees mounted, diplomats gathered in London pledged the staggering sum of $11bn in aid to alleviate the suffering.

ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c9e325a2-ce70-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377.html#axzz3zmZ37WXR

Assad has been accused, sounds like found guilty of “extermination” by the UN so ignominious excuses or fables like the MSM say this is a falsehood, that is a deception.

Putin, Assad & ISIS can create refugees faster than EU can help them & EU will become bankrupt & unstable as it tries. Must help at source.

twitter.com/Kasparov63?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rferl.org%2Fcontentlive%2Fliveblog%2F26805126.html&tw_i=563420801786195968&tw_p=tweetembed

Some people think these refugees are intentionally being used to flood Europe per the uproar, at least the Free countries are aware of this now.

In the first place, the Assad-Kremlin-Iran alliance is not a useful partner in fighting ISIS. On the contrary, as many astute analysts have noted, for example here, and here, there is plenty of evidence that Assad has been deeply involved in creating and supporting the ISIS group. These actions include releasing most of the ISIS leadership from his jails in 2011, providing the group with funds by purchasing its oil, and providing the terrorists with direct tactical air support for their attacks on the Free Syrian Army and other elements of the regime’s real opposition. Assad’s game plan in doing this is simple. By building up the deliberately-horrifying ISIS and helping it wipe out the Western-backed rebels, Assad hopes to present the world with a choice of just two alternatives: ISIS or himself.

Read more: americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/the_assad_republicans_are_wrong.html#ixzz3zmdY3Ub0


#20

Assad has been accused, sounds like found guilty of “extermination” by the UN so ignominious excuses or fables like the MSM say this is a falsehood, that is a deception.*

I’ll stick with the Christian patriarchs resounding support for Assad, and the fact that the majority of Syrians, as indicated by numerous polls, support him. :wink:

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Putin, Assad & ISIS can create refugees faster than EU can help them & EU will become bankrupt & unstable as it tries. Must help at source. Some people think these refugees are intentionally being used to flood Europe per the uproar, at least the Free countries are aware of this now.
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:rotfl:

Unbelievable! :smiley:

Russia has only just joined the Syrian ‘fight-club’. So what about the massive influx of refugees, last year, when the Western coalition was fighting in Syria - and Russia hadn’t joined in? In addition to the mass refugee influx, for the past 5-10 years, flooding Europe. :confused: Where did all these refugees ‘land’ from - OR which conflicts caused these people to have to flee their countries. :rolleyes:

Needless to say, the Syrian refugee numbers are now declining, several months after Russia stepped into the fray. :thumbsup:

breitbart.com/london/2016/01/29/eu-border-agency-syrian-numbers-declining-economic-migration-exploding/

EU Border Agency: Syrian ‘Refugee’ Numbers Declining, Economic Migration Exploding


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