Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being spy

A 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy was hanged by Taliban militants, according to a report Thursday.

The child was allegedly put on trial by the militant group and later found guilty of working for Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai’s government, reports the Daily Mail.

Karzai called the act a "crime against humanity."

"I don't think there's a crime bigger than that that even the most inhuman forces on earth can commit," Karzai said.

The child was publicly hanged in the Taliban stronghold of Helmand province.

"A 7-year-old boy cannot be a spy," Karzai added. "A 7-year-old boy cannot be anything but a seven-year-old boy, and therefore hanging or shooting to kill a seven-year-old boy... is a crime against humanity."

Taliban hang 7-year old boy

Is it any suprise that the same people who marry seven year-olds, and throw acide in the face of school girls, also hang them?

Unless Muslims themselves unite in the battle against this warped vision of humanity, this is actually the future of Islam.

Just to give the story some perspective, in their war against Iraq, the country of Iran, modern enough to now be on the verge of full nuclear technology, used their seven year old boys as living mine sweeps.

[quote="Darryl1958, post:2, topic:201469"]

Unless Muslims themselves unite in the battle against this warped vision of humanity, this is actually the future of Islam.

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I find it amazing that this has not happened yet. Unless, of course, this view of humanity is, in fact, truly Islamic?

[quote="Darryl1958, post:2, topic:201469"]
Is it any suprise that the same people who marry seven year-olds, and throw acide in the face of school girls, also hang them?

Unless Muslims themselves unite in the battle against this warped vision of humanity, this is actually the future of Islam.

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I can think of many incidents over the years of purported Christians (including so-called born again evangelicals and reasonably devout Catholics) indulging in behaviour just as frightful as this in the north of Ireland. Generalising a whole group tends to be dangerous. Yes Afghanistan is brutal and in many ways governed by self-apointed little tinpot dictators but a lot of the talk about Islam here often seems to be quite paranoid and along the lines of ,'Woudln't want them living next door to me mate'.

[quote="JharekCarnelian, post:5, topic:201469"]
I can think of many incidents over the years of purported Christians (including so-called born again evangelicals and reasonably devout Catholics) indulging in behavior just as frightful as this in the north of Ireland. Generalizing a whole group tends to be dangerous. Yes Afghanistan is brutal and in many ways governed by self-appointed little tinpot dictators but a lot of the talk about Islam here often seems to be quite paranoid and along the lines of ,'Wouldn't want them living next door to me mate'.

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This is a rather illiterate response actually. Rather than respond to what is actually written, leftists need to impose their ideology onto the subject, bang on that round peg until it fits into the square holes which declares that if is not leftist, then it is racist.

Taliban, like Iran before it, will bring — and in fact have brought— into place systems of government where seven year-olds become the legitimate playthings for fifty year old perverts, where boys are used as mine sweeps, where girls have acid thrown in their face for the crime of going to school, where children are not given the protections that modern modes of thinking now deem appropriate.

The Moslem next door is as often as not an Afghani doctor now working as a taxi driver in order to bring his family out of this lunacy that rules his former homeland.

It matters not a wit if even 95 % of Muslims are as repulsed by this kind of thing as any normal person is. This is the kind of sharia systems that Islamist regimes are imposing on their subjects. 95% is only relevant in the democracies that the Islamist has declared Western perversions. Democracies submit to the will of the people. Theocracies impose the will of their 'Allah' upon the peoples will until all submit, or pay the jizya-like consequences.

In political Islam, submission to God and submission to the tyrants are for all practical purposes the same thing.

For sure, the Taliban are very comparable to the Irish terrorists. It is no surprise that the same people who were supporting the IRA fund-raising drives in the bars of Massachusetts are now the same ones enabling the the Islamists by running interference with those who are actually spilling their blood in the fight against these Neanderthals. when the imperfectly good is defined as evil, then what is absolutely evil becomes the new good.

Bogeyman Israel poses no threat to the lives of a billion Muslims. Islamism does. This indeed is the future that will be imposed on Muslims living in Islamist countries.

95% of Muslims, nay even 99 % may disagree with that vision.

No matter. The star of political Islamism is rising. If it is not fought tooth and nail by Muslims themselves, their destiny will be written by that star in spite of what they believe.

I have to stop reading the news. I saw this earlier and it just sickened me.

[quote="Darryl1958, post:6, topic:201469"]
This is a rather illiterate response actually. Rather than respond to what is actually written, leftists need to impose their ideology onto the subject, bang on that round peg until it fits into the square holes which declares that if is not leftist, then it is racist.

Taliban, like Iran before it, will bring — and in fact have brought— into place systems of government where seven year-olds become the legitimate playthings for fifty year old perverts, where boys are used as mine sweeps, where girls have acid thrown in their face for the crime of going to school, where children are not given the protections that modern modes of thinking now deem appropriate.

The Moslem next door is as often as not an Afghani doctor now working as a taxi driver in order to bring his family out of this lunacy that rules his former homeland.

It matters not a wit if even 95 % of Muslims are as repulsed by this kind of thing as any normal person is. This is the kind of sharia systems that Islamist regimes are imposing on their subjects. 95% is only relevant in the democracies that the Islamist has declared Western perversions. Democracies submit to the will of the people. Theocracies impose the will of their 'Allah' upon the peoples will until all submit, or pay the jizya-like consequences.

In political Islam, submission to God and submission to the tyrants are for all practical purposes the same thing.

For sure, the Taliban are very comparable to the Irish terrorists. It is no surprise that the same people who were supporting the IRA fund-raising drives in the bars of Massachusetts are now the same ones enabling the the Islamists by running interference with those who are actually spilling their blood in the fight against these Neanderthals. when the imperfectly good is defined as evil, then what is absolutely evil becomes the new good.

Bogeyman Israel poses no threat to the lives of a billion Muslims. Islamism does. This indeed is the future that will be imposed on Muslims living in Islamist countries.

95% of Muslims, nay even 99 % may disagree with that vision.

No matter. The star of political Islamism is rising. If it is not fought tooth and nail by Muslims themselves, their destiny will be written by that star in spite of what they believe.

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Irish republican socialist would fit better than leftist actually.

[quote="JharekCarnelian, post:8, topic:201469"]
Irish republican socialist would fit better than leftist actually.

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Potato, potahto.

[quote="Darryl1958, post:9, topic:201469"]
Potato, potahto.

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And I in my turn would say that this website seems the longer I use it to reflect a view that the Catholic Church and the American republican party are and should be one and the same. This site has long seemed ill-equipped to handle political differences, leftist is a pointless tag to throw around. It does not engage with the issues either -it is merely a piece of ad hominem.

The reality is the Taliban are fanatics BUT they were fanatics who for expediency's sake were once considered favourably to a degree. America and the west generally have taken an inconsistent position with regard to them over the last three decades or so. As to the north of Ireland my comments on terrorism there would apply to all sides, including the IRA, British Army, unionists and all participants who generally didn't so much put their hands in a bucket of blood as have a swim around in a reasonable sized lake of said substance.

Islam has to a large extent replaced the old USSR as the bogeyman that the US seems most scared of and that seems evident in this forum as you read it.

Obviously hanging 7 year old boys is a form of barbarism but let's not be too cozy about own own actions in the 'war on terrorism'.

At least they didnt try to waterboard him. if so the left would really be outraged

[quote="Darryl1958, post:6, topic:201469"]
This is a rather illiterate response actually. Rather than respond to what is actually written, leftists need to impose their ideology onto the subject, bang on that round peg until it fits into the square holes which declares that if is not leftist, then it is racist.

Taliban, like Iran before it, will bring — and in fact have brought— into place systems of government where seven year-olds become the legitimate playthings for fifty year old perverts, where boys are used as mine sweeps, where girls have acid thrown in their face for the crime of going to school, where children are not given the protections that modern modes of thinking now deem appropriate.

The Moslem next door is as often as not an Afghani doctor now working as a taxi driver in order to bring his family out of this lunacy that rules his former homeland.

It matters not a wit if even 95 % of Muslims are as repulsed by this kind of thing as any normal person is. This is the kind of sharia systems that Islamist regimes are imposing on their subjects. 95% is only relevant in the democracies that the Islamist has declared Western perversions. Democracies submit to the will of the people. Theocracies impose the will of their 'Allah' upon the peoples will until all submit, or pay the jizya-like consequences.

In political Islam, submission to God and submission to the tyrants are for all practical purposes the same thing.

For sure, the Taliban are very comparable to the Irish terrorists. It is no surprise that the same people who were supporting the IRA fund-raising drives in the bars of Massachusetts are now the same ones enabling the the Islamists by running interference with those who are actually spilling their blood in the fight against these Neanderthals. when the imperfectly good is defined as evil, then what is absolutely evil becomes the new good.

Bogeyman Israel poses no threat to the lives of a billion Muslims. Islamism does. This indeed is the future that will be imposed on Muslims living in Islamist countries.

95% of Muslims, nay even 99 % may disagree with that vision.

No matter. The star of political Islamism is rising. If it is not fought tooth and nail by Muslims themselves, their destiny will be written by that star in spite of what they believe.

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I couldnt find anything of this on the BBC yet, but found a link to a video on CNN where they stressed nothing had been confirmed as yet and it was still ''allegations''.

This may change as more becomes known - and if it's true, it is a truely sickening and appalling crime.

Much like the Israeli's shooting dead a 2 year old and a 7 year old, while standing outside with their grandmother, waving a white flag.

In one case documented in the report, on January 7 in eastern Jabalya, two women and three children from the ‘Abd Rabbo family were standing for a few minutes outside their home—at least three of them holding pieces of white cloth—when an Israeli soldier opened fire, killing two girls, aged two and seven, and wounding the grandmother and third girl. “We spent seven to nine minutes waving the flags and our faces were looking at them [the soldiers],” said the girls’ grandmother, who was shot twice. “And suddenly they opened fire and the girls fell to the ground.”
Eyewitness accounts, tank tracks, an ammunition box and bullet casings found at the scene, and an examination of the grandmother by forensic experts indicate that an Israeli soldier fired upon identifiable and unarmed women and children.

hrw.org/en/node/85004/section/3

The ''rather illiterate'' response from the Israeli government to requests to discuss HRW's findings in general, or the incident above, has been to simply refuse to.

Would you agree that the soldier who murdered these two little children is no better than those alleged to have hung a 7 year old child?

Exactly Guyonthestreet, barbarism is barbarism whether practised by 'our' side or 'theirs' whoever uncomfortable the former may make us feel at times.

[quote="JharekCarnelian, post:10, topic:201469"]

And I in my turn would say that this website seems the longer I use it to reflect a view that the Catholic Church and the American republican party are and should be one and the same. This site has long seemed ill-equipped to handle political differences, leftist is a pointless tag to throw around. It does not engage with the issues either -it is merely a piece of ad hominem.

Left is not a ad hominem any more that right is an ad hominem or liberal is an ad hominem or conservative is an ad hominem. Such words are used to differentiate political viewpoints in* political* forums especially.
In terms of ad hominems, the implications of your post, where you associate my words with racism against the Muslim next door was in effect an ad hominem.
It is also a typical argument of people who could be broadly labeled as being on the left. Socialists as a whole understand that they position can be called as left leaning.
As for whether the conservative positon of the Republican party is closer to God than thou, it may well be. As a Canadian, it is not for me to decide.

The reality is the Taliban are fanatics BUT they were fanatics who for expediency's sake were once considered favourably to a degree. America and the west generally have taken an inconsistent position with regard to them over the last three decades or so.

Roosevelt and Churchill shook hands with the butcher Stalin as well. There were horrendous political consequences to that too. No doubt Churchill especially realized that this would be the case. That was the reality that he had to deal with. Survival is often not a pretty thing, for sure.

As to the north of Ireland my comments on terrorism there would apply to all sides, including the IRA, British Army, unionists and all participants who generally didn't so much put their hands in a bucket of blood as have a swim around in a reasonable sized lake of said substance.

Of course they would. The moral equivalence argument makes no distinction between the British Army and the Taliban hanging a seven year old.
I might point out that such arguments are more at home with people on the left, but that might be rather gauche now.....

Islam has to a large extent replaced the old USSR as the bogeyman that the US seems most scared of and that seems evident in this forum as you read it.

Politcal Islam is on the rise globally, from Pakistan to Turkey to Palestine, to Indonesia. since the revolution in Iran in 1979 and the Islamist storming of of Mecca in the same year, political Islamism is a force to be reckoned with.

The left in general is in denial about this basic reality to a far greater extent than the right.
It does not change the fact that there will be consequences to Islamism taking over a country, that Islam is taking over many countries, and has been since 1979.
Hangings of seven year olds are the kinds of things that we can expect if and when the poltical Islamification of a country takes place.
Before 1979, Pakistani children received an education similar to that of British kids. Now it is all about madrassahs.
Child brides were illegal before the ayatollahs of Iran in the 1970's. the law was changed to reflect the sexual habits of Mohammed.

In the 1960's, there were miniskirts on the streets of Kabul. Now for the Taliban, it is all about burlap potato sacks from head to toe.

Pictures of 1957 graduating class of Egyptian girls documents that they were all bare-headed. Now they are now all wearing their religious scarfs.

Things are changing in the house of Islam. This is not a bogeyman argument. It is indisputable historic fact.

The sky is blue. The pope is Catholic. A bear pffts in the woods. There is is a fundamental change going on in the House of Islam.

If 95% of Muslims do not like this direction, then Israel is the bogeyman detraction from the real enemy that will affect their laws, their lands, their lives, pervasively, directly, and to an extent that Israel never will.

It is not 1979 anymore. Americans are not aiding the Muslim fundamentalists in order to fight off the communists, who in turn were spawned by Churchill' and Teddy's manage-a-trois with Stalin.

So if 99% of Muslims do not want to live in lands where seven year olds are hanged, and girls are stoned for being raped, and seven year old girls are betrothed to perverts, then really, they ought to be aware of who is fighting against this kind of world—and who isn't.

This is not a bogeyman. This world is already being put into place in country after country across the House of Islam.

Obviously hanging 7 year old boys is a form of barbarism but let's not be too cozy about own own actions in the 'war on terrorism'.

Is the left even in a war against terrorism?
How would we even know?

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[quote="Guyonthestreet, post:12, topic:201469"]

Much like the Israeli's shooting dead a 2 year old and a 7 year old, while standing outside with their grandmother, waving a white flag.

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You would even use the death of a 7 year old child at the hands of the Taliban thousands of miles away to bash Israel?

Shameful.:mad:

[quote="iamrefreshed, post:15, topic:201469"]
You would even use the death of a 7 year old child at the hands of the Taliban thousands of miles away to bash Israel?

Shameful.:mad:

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Especially since everyone knows its Bush's fault.

[quote="iamrefreshed, post:15, topic:201469"]
You would even use the death of a 7 year old child at the hands of the Taliban thousands of miles away to bash Israel?

Shameful.:mad:

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First of all there is currently no official confirmation that the alleged incident happened. Ive already said if it has, then it is vile beyond words or understanding.

Second it is a matter of fact the 2 year old and 7 year old were killed by the IDF.

What is ''shameful'' is the attempt to silence any form of questioning of Israeli and IDF activity.

THAT is truely shameful.

The question is simple; is the unwarrented and unnecessary killing of two unarmed and non combative civilian children, 2 and 7 years of age, by a highly trained, skilled and professional soldier as bad as the killing of a child by the Taliban?

[quote="Guyonthestreet, post:17, topic:201469"]
First of all there is currently no official confirmation that the alleged incident happened. Ive already said if it has, then it is vile beyond words or understanding.

Second it is a matter of fact the 2 year old and 7 year old were killed by the IDF.

What is ''shameful'' is the attempt to silence any form of questioning of Israeli and IDF activity.

THAT is truely shameful.

The question is simple; is the unwarrented and unnecessary killing of two unarmed and non combative civilian children, 2 and 7 years of age, by a highly trained, skilled and professional soldier as bad as the killing of a child by the Taliban?

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Unless it was deliberate-no.

[quote="Guyonthestreet, post:17, topic:201469"]
First of all there is currently no official confirmation that the alleged incident happened. Ive already said if it has, then it is vile beyond words or understanding.

Second it is a matter of fact the 2 year old and 7 year old were killed by the IDF.

What is ''shameful'' is the attempt to silence any form of questioning of Israeli and IDF activity.

THAT is truely shameful.

The question is simple; is the unwarrented and unnecessary killing of two unarmed and non combative civilian children, 2 and 7 years of age, by a highly trained, skilled and professional soldier as bad as the killing of a child by the Taliban?

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Maybe you can start a thread when you find a news article. But, until you do, you are hijacking this thread for your own agenda.

[quote="iamrefreshed, post:4, topic:201469"]
I find it amazing that this has not happened yet. Unless, of course, this view of humanity is, in fact, truly Islamic?

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John Lennon once quipped that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus Christ. That may or may not be true, but what is true is that the teachings of Karl Marx and the left has been more widely disseminated globally than have been the Gospels. When many Muslims look for causes as to what is happening, they are already predisposed to seeing the West and capitalism as the real culprit. Their education system has been our own. It sings the siren song of the left too.

Also, most people raised in the third world are genuinely conservative and fear the sexual norms that have become all too pervasive in the West, that have tainted us all. As a result there is a tendency to turn to the taciturn moralists of their religion as an alternative.

But, most importantly, the MSM and the left-wing blogosphere in general all play their roles here as well. Already you will note how the left plays its usual role into refocusing on the evil baby-killer Jew rather than on the story at hand. And of course anyone raised in the ME in the past thirty years has developed an ear for that kind of message.

Certainly the Islamist interpretation of their religion is a rational reading of their texts. It is not outside of the norm of Islamic thought. Then again, there is no reason why sharia, with its amputations, its crucifixions of dead bodies, its child brides and seventh-century barbarity need to define Islam either. The Islam of thirty years ago differed substantially than what it is becoming today. It is not inevitable that Islam become the Islam of Saudi Arabia, of Iran, of Hamas.

The sad fact is the West itself suffers from civilizational exhaustion.The message of the left, so full of self-recrimination and self-loathing and self-blame, merely exemplifies this. Our education system and our medias have driven home the point that the West has nothing to be proud of when it comes to our culture, that our freedoms have all come at the expense of the subjugation of the third world man. So when the third world man is driven from his own homeland onto our shores by Islamist barbarity, he is no longer presented with our freedom as a shining alternative, but with multiculturalism in which the world he is running from becomes replicated in the new land, with the full blessing of our elites.

Over and over again, the message becomes driven home to him that those us who still stand up for Western ideals are the racists, the exploiters, 'the Jew'. The left presents themselves as the haven which will protect everyone from 'our ilk', we the greedy right-wing racist exploiters, the evangelicals that Rosie ODonnell describes as more dangerous than the Taliban even; that once the battle against the capitalist is won, once the colonizing Jew is driven out, then Islam will be able to be all that it can be, the nirvana even. .

..the world according to Rousseau.....

The Left and liberalism are not synonymous. They are not generally against the Hamas's and the Talibans of the world, but they enable them as their allies in their battle against the Right.

Their main battle is as always against the evil Right, we who "do not care that babies go to bed hungry", against the capitalist, against the 'greed' of Wall street and the Bankers, hook-nosed or not, against the idea of getting ahead, against American Exceptionalism, against the very idea that the grandeur of Western ideals could ever be a fitting model for the world.

The left deserves full marks for the way they have sold this message to the Muslims amongst us. In the meantime country after country falls to the Islamists. How could it be otherwise?

Our freedoms require sufficient people who believe in them. Otherwise they evaporate like the ideals of a bygone age, disembodied spirits, mere rumours of things that might have been. Not in our media, not in our classrooms, not in our universities even; the voice for freedom has become a veritable voice in the wilderness.

Muslims have not taken up the cause of freedom against the Islamist because that voice has become drowned out by the message of the left.

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