I just spent over an hour writing here and then lost the whole thing! Hopefully I can express everything I was trying to convey.
I went to the Protestant Assembly of God for quite a while and took courses there and got information on the beast, etc. in the course of just being there. Their view seems to be one of self-interpretation as when I finally found Catholic books on the subject I found that the Catholics are really in the know, esp. because they believe in the apparitions of the Virgin Mary and post-Biblical exhortations, prophecies, visions, saints, etc. and have written a great deal about them.
Well I read the book “Witness” by Josyp Terelya with Michael H. Brown. Josyp was imprisoned and tortured in the Ukraine and visions and encouragment from Mother Mary helped him endure that. She showed him, among other things, peoples faces with evil grins on them. People that had been around him, some, I believe were people he had known.
Also a Pope at the end of the 19th century (Pope Leo?) had a vision in which the devil came to God and asked Him if he could have any century in which he could war against the church with everything he had. God said yes and the devil picked the 20th. But God said, I will make the church stronger too. Parts of the vision were so horrifying that the Pope made up the prayer to St. Michael to be said after every low Mass.
Then I read “The Thunder of Justice” by Ted and Maureen Flynn, forward by Malachi Martin and it was about what Mother Mary had to say about “The Warning; The Miracle; The Chastisement; The Era of Peace.” I’ve read dozens of books on the subject but can’t speak to anyone I know because all of my friends and family are atheists or just plain non-believers. Some hatefully so and will argue and argue against someone with a faith in Jesus.
I’ve seen young people all over make what most would call a gang sign, but I believe it is the mark of the beast on the hand: forefinger and little finger extended. Of course it’s also a rather innocent sign for the Texas Longhorns and others too, but when I see dozens or hundreds of youngsters raising their hands with that sign at rock concerts, I believe it’s for the bull. The same bull as the golden calf that the rebellious Jews were worshiping when rebellion set in after they exited Egypt. The Egyptian religion. The Babylonian religion. The Roman and Greek religions.
I believe, contrary to the Protestant teaching, that the beast is not just one man, but almost the entire civilization of the planet. Jesus spoke of the beast that was (the civilization before the flood) and was not now (but the “spirit” of the antichrist was there-in other words, it didn’t have the power over the whole planet nor the membership numbers) then the beast that shall be–the one now. I believe it’s been around since the beginning of the 20th century, probably working up steam til then, reached a pinacle sometime in the 60’s which Fatima alluded to and is now unbelievably powerful-the civilization that covers the entire earth EXCEPT FOR THE ELECT–the invisible church of Jesus Christ. Invisible because it doesn’t reside in any bldg. but in the temples, the hearts, of His people. The moral state of the whole world that puts its faith in science and technology and thinks people who believe in the devil or God are crazy is declining. This is why Jesus Christ Himself has to come and take over the world and make war against the beast, I believe.
The 4 horsemen must ride first, etc. I think most believers are familiar with Revelation at this point.
I know myself that the spirit that attacks me when I speak of Jesus to certain people is a very ugly one. There was one time in fact when I must have been ignorant of the danger to me, because I felt the Spirit of Christ come to my aid and soothed the people that had been arguing adamantly against me.
Then once, a person I knew well was looking at a dragon on tv and his face broke out in the most horrible grin. Josyp Terelya’s book came to mind and I immediately knew what was going on (thanks be to God for preparing me for that moment by having led me to the Catholic books.) Suddenly all the pieces began to come together and I started to realize where in time we were as well as many other things I had read.
Again, the beast is here now; has been here for a long time ("for a great falling away must come first, then he will be revealed. This falling away has occurred in the Catholic Church, Protestant churches and nowdays it seems as if one can believe in anything except Christianity.) We have all seen the results of Madeline Murray O’Hare and the 10 Commandments being removed from public places, nativity scenes, etc. Never mind even the great animosity I found that the Assembly of God church has against Catholics (and about 1/3 to 1/2 of their members by my account of where I went, are former Catholics.)
Even bad men sign up to be Priests so they can cause havoc and ruin the reputation of the Catholics and cause such suffering. Christianity is even at odds within itself!
I almost lost this whole thread a 2nd time so I’m going to leave it here. I’ve read maybe 100 books, pamphlets; taken courses at churches, etc. on this subject and would be delighted and spiritually uplifted to discuss this topic, pray about it, hear from others, etc.
Most Sincerely in Christ
ps I would like to add that Margaret Sanger who “started” free love and the abortion movement appeared in the beginning of the 20th and Alistair Crowley who called himself the “beast 666” started the Order of the Golden Dawn in England. I believe one of his students was Anton LaVey who had that church of satan in CA and influenced so much of Hollywood. I believe his daughter now runs it due to his death a while back (saw them on the Phil Donahue show downplaying their “religion” a long time ago.)