The "Beginning" of the End


#1

I am not here to cause anger or hate, but instead to question.
Do ignore my spelling mistakes. I will be trying to correct them as I keep rereading what I posted.

“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36)

Then why does the angel that tells Daniel the time of the end of days do so? Is man the only one with a sense of time?
Hence, the angels wouldn’t be able to tell man of timely events.
The only way the book of Daniel might fit in is if the date given by the angel is the start of the end, but not the end.

“But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into.” (Luke 12:39)

Although true, but if one uses the idea of the angel giving Daniel the time of the beginning of the end, then the owner of the house is aware that a thief is to come, but not of when.

In the Book of Daniel:
*One site, exodus2006.com/2daniel.htm has a good point.
Snippet from it, "The angel’s first reply is a time times and a half. This could be an evasive way of saying two and a half thousand years. Like us, Daniel is not sure what this means, so then the angel says that this information is closed up, and sealed (coded), until the time of the end. *

*He then reveals the answer, but in the form of a riddle. This riddle is only solvable by someone with accurate historical knowledge about Judaism and events on the Temple Mount. This information is now available. *

*From the moment that the perpetual sacrifice is abolished…
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*This refers to the reforms under King Josiah in 620 BC. These reforms came about because Judaism had been devastated under the rule of the previous king, Manassah, who had tried to convert Israel to the religion of his mother, and he carried out bloody purges against the priesthood and prophets who spoke out against him. The Levites, who had been appointed by Moses to look after the Ark of the Covenant, fled the country and took the Ark with them. The events of this time are well researched and presented by Graham Hancock in his book The Sign and the Seal. *

*King Josiah meant to do well, but fifty years had passed and many things had been lost. There was no-one left from the old order to provide guidance, so the new Judaism was somewhat different. *

*The Judaism of Moses demanded that sacrifices take place at the place where the Ark was kept, but Jews who lived in times and places where the Ark was inaccessible would sacrifice at small local shrines instead. *

*Probably in an attempt to discourage rumours that the Ark was missing, the new Judaism of Josiah forbade any sacrifices apart from those done at the Temple. Consequently, when the Temple was destroyed by the Babylonians, not many years later, ritual sacrifices ended completely. *

*…and the appalling abomination set up: a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
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*The time scale is obviously not days, so if we add 1,290 years to 620 BC we get 671AD (there was no year 0). If we turn our attention to what was happening at this time on the Temple Mount, we find there is a newly built Mosque. *

*The prophet Mohammed died in 632 AD, in the years after his death his followers gained control of most of the Middle East. Jerusalem fell in 638 AD to Caliph Omar. At this time the Temple Mount was in ruins. At first a wooden Mosque was built, then in 691 AD, the Dome of the Rock was commissioned, to replace the previous wooden structure. I do not have exact dates for the first Mosque, but the timing for the replacement of the Temple by a different religion is remarkably accurate. *

Blessed is he who perseveres and attains one thousand three hundred and thirty five days."

(end of snippet)

Although, Catholics argue that the perpetual abomination is the time after the Church abandons the practice of the body and blood of Christ. Although, the only answer I can supply to back this up is: 12:12 - "Blessed is he who attains one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days."
Why would the angel say one is blessed for attaining just 4 years? Hence the days AREN’T days but instead years.


#2

In the Book Of Revelations:
Although, this may not give a clue to the time of the event, it might give hints of what to look for:

Volcanic Eruption:
8:7 - “The first angel sounded: And hail and fire followed, mingled with blood, and they were thrown to the Earth. And a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up.”

Comet?:
8:8 - “Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.”

** Asteroid: (Wormwood?) (Toutatis, a close to earth asteroid, is suppsedly said to come again in 12-12-2012)**
8:10 - “Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.”

One might suspect days of darkness due to all the air particles in the air from the fall of comets and asteroids. This would prevent plants from growing and in the end is what killed off the dinosaurs.
8:12 - “Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that the 3rd of them was darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.”

I for one find this topic interesting, and openly discuss it with many other religious friends. Although, I am currently aware of the ideas of a false prophet, and I must warn you I do not intend to spread false misinformation.


#3

The IRS has warned us against false profits. Resistance is futile; you will be audited and assimilated.


#4

Good one there =P

Although, I am still wondering how no angel knows the time of the end when the angel that talks to Daniel does. Then again, the angel may be referring to the Beginning of the End which is supposedly a big difference.


#5

I think, Supernova, that many people “platonize” the Bible’s meaning and structure. If the Bible says that something is true, well, darn it, it better be extremely true, they think.

Instead of imposing your attitude and demand upon the Bible, let the Bible impose itself on you.

Mostly, relax.

So, when Christ says, “No one knows the day or hour,” note that you were not alive then. Did those words apply to you? To me? Well, maybe not. Why? Well, Christ Himself gives hints on timing of the end, does He not? If we are alive to see the hints fulfilled, we are starting to know the day and the hour, aren’t we?

So, maybe, as you read, “No one knows the day or hour,” play around with the idea that people might gradually come to know the Day, and the hour, anyway.

I, personally, think that the signs of the end are beginning to “kick in.” I think that the fundamentalists are correct when they say that the establishment of national Israel in 1948 and the immigration of Jews to a Jewish nation is the “fig tree” coming into “leaf,” again. There’s a line in the gospels that “it will be like Sodom and Gomorrah in those days” (near the end). Lo and behold, we’re starting to legalize homosexual marriage. The “Great Falling Away” is apparently supposed to precede near the end. Lo and behold, churches are nearly empty in Europe. In America, attendance is falling, especially in Protestant congregations. In more and more of those, homosexuals are being put in charge, something which our homosexual brothers and sisters regard as a social and political “advance,” but is really a subtle form of “ghettoization” of the churches – people don’t care, so they hand control over to the very folks whose behavior is condemned in Scripture. Another indicator has kicked-in, and possibly a fifth, but I can’t remember what it is, right now.

Then there is the deeply bizarre material. If the Revelation 13 “beast come out of the sea” is the 2 Thessalonians 2 “man of lawlessness,” to come shortly before the end, he might be here, too. That’s for another thread.

I personally think that we are really, really close.

Because those indicators are there, I’m curious about the connection between the next pope and olives, in St. Malachi’s list, where the next-to-last pope is called, “The Glory of the Olive.”

He might be a Benedictine. (Green robes.) He might bring back into the Roman fold the Orthodox Church in Greece (where olives are grown). Who knows?


#6

Prophecies have been given. You can find other ones made by seers and the Virgin Mary that have been approved by the Church. We are given possible time scales for teh events, or simply when something happens to know that the next is not far away.

As for the actual day when Christ will return for teh final judgment. No one knows, not even Him, but only the Father in Heaven. Though of course we can rightly say it’ll happen after everything else is out of the way…

If you’re interested I can post some things here later…


#7

Thanks for explaining that.
As for the Pope situation goes, the bible codes (I am neutral on this and don’t agree with it or disagree with it) say “Lustiger” is supposed to be the next pope. If that happens then I might rethink the idea of a code being encrypted in the Bible. Although sad thing though is it labels the Lustiger as the anti-christ.
And many question the morallity of believing the Bible codes to be true, but most of the things found are actually on the side of good. For example there is a Bible code that curses at ones who practice abortion, and another for murders. But, that’s a whole other topic.

OOh, and yes, do post more please!


#8

Concerning the Bible Codes, I do believe in them, the mathematical precision and coincidence are beyond anything imaginable. You can find ‘codes’ in other books too, but the difference between the Bible and the skeptics examples is that codes are found near significant passages. For example Jesus’ name ‘Yeshua’ is found in every passage prophecising Him without fail, even in crucifix shape patterns, or all the Hebrew names of trees are found in the passages about the Garden of Eden etc. So unlike the skeptics who search whole books, Bible Code scientists usually know where to look to find something significant.

However be cautioned, we cannot use the Codes to predict the future, God has forbidden this throguh such a practice, and hence any attempt will only mislead you, though ‘after the fact predictions’ can be verified afterwards. Some think that these hidden codes are really the hidden book of Daniel…

[quote=Supernova]OOh, and yes, do post more please!
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I’ll be back in a jiffy…


#9

Here’s a list to start us off… read carefully… some have already happened…

“You will hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not alarmed, for these things must happen, but it will not yet be the end. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be famines and earthquakes from place to place. All these things are the beginnings of the labor pains.”

Matthew 24: 6-7

Since before the time of the prophet Daniel there have been warnings about the nature of the final days of the earth. Perhaps the best known of these is from the New Testament:

“When you see the desolating abomination spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains, a person on the housetop must not go down to get things out of his house, a person in the field must not return to get his cloak. Woe to pregnant women and nursing mothers in those days. Pray that your flight not be in winter or on the sabbath, for at that time there will be great tribulation, such has not been seen since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be.” (Matt 24: 15-21)


“Men will surrender to the spirit of the age. They will say that if they had lived in our day, faith would be simple and easy. But in their day, they will say, things are complex; the Church must be brought up to date and made meaningful to the day’s problems. When the Church and the world are one, then those days are at hand”

St. Antony the Abbot - Fourth Century

“Falsehood will characterize that class of men who will sit in judgment to pass sentence according to law: between the father and his son, litigations will subsist. The clergy of the holy church will be addicted to pride and injustice. Women will abandon feelings of delicacy, and cohabit with men out of wedlock”

St. Senanus - Sixth Century

“The time is coming when princes and peoples will reject the authority of the Pope. Some countries will prefer their own Church rulers to the Pope. The German Empire will be divided.”

Saint Hildegard - Twelfth Century

“In the 20th century there will be wars and fury that will last a long time; whole provinces shall be emptied of their inhabitants, and kingdoms shall be thrown into confusion. In many places the land shall be left untilled, and there shall be great slaughters of the upper class. The right hand of the world shall fear the left, and the north shall prevail over the south.”

Saint Hildegard - Twelfth Century

“The pope will change his residence and the Church will not be defended for twenty-five months or more because, during all that time there will be no Pope in Rome…After many tribulations, a Pope shall be elected out of those who survived the persecutions”

Bishop Christianos Ageda - Twelfth Century

“Before the comet comes, many nations, the good excepted, will be scourged by want and famine. The great nation in the ocean that is inhabited by people of different tribes and descent will be devestated by earthquake, storm, and tidal wave. It will be divided and, in great part, submerged. That nation will also have many misfortunes at sea and lose its colonies”

John of Vitiguerro - Thirteenth Century

“The great Monarch and the great Pope will precede Antichrist. The nations will be at war for four years and a great part of the world will be destroyed. The Pope will go over the sea carrying the sign of Redemption on his forehead. The great Monarch will come to restore peace and the Pope will share in the victory.”

Abbot Werdin D’Orante - Thirteenth Century


#10

“In the days of peace that are to come after the desolation of revolutions and wars, before the end of the world, the Christians will become so lax in their religion that they will refuse to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation, saying ‘it is an unnecessary Sacrament’”

St. Vincent Ferrer - Fourteenth Century

“The chastisement will come when carriages go without horses and many accidents fill the world with woe. It will come when thoughts are flying around the earth in the twinkling of an eye, when long tunnels are made for horseless machines, when men can fly in the air and ride under the sea, when ships are wholly made of metal, when fire and water great marvels do, when even the poor can read books, and when many taxes are levied for war.”

Mother Shipton - Sixteenth Century

“The fifth period of the Church, which began circa 1520, will end with the arrival of the holy Pope and of the powerful Monarch who is called ‘Help From God’ because he will restore everything. The fifth period is one of affliction, desolation, humiliation, and poverty for the Church. Jesus Christ will purify His people through cruel wars, famines, plagues, epidemics, and other horrible calamities. He will also afflict and weaken the Latin Church with many heresies. It is a period of defections, calamities and exterminations. Those Christians who survive the sword, plague and famines, will be few on earth.”

Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser - Seventeenth Century

“During this period, many men will abuse of the freedom of conscience conceded to them. It is of such men that Jude the Apostle spoke when he said: 'These men blaspheme whatever they do not understand; and they corrupt whatever they know naturally as irrational animals do… They will ridicule Christian simplicity; they will call it folly and nonsense, but they will have the highest regard for advanced knowledge, and for the skill by which the axioms of law, the precepts of morality, the Holy Canons and religious dogmas are clouded by senseless questions and elaborate arguements.”

Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser - Seventeenth Century

“These are the evil times, a century full of dangers and calamities. Heresy is everywhere, and the followers of heresy are in power almost everywhere…But God will permit a great evil against His Church: Heretics and tyrants will come suddenly and unexpectedly; they will break into the Church…They will enter Italy and lay Rome waste; they will burn down churches and destroy everything.”

Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser - Seventeenth Century

“It was revealed to me that through the intercession of the Mother of God, all heresies will disappear. This victory over heresies has been reserved by Christ for His Blessed Mother…Before the Second Coming of Christ, Mary must, more than ever, shine in mercy, might and grace in order to bring unbelievers into the Catholic Faith.”

Venerable Mary of Agreda - Seventeenth Century

“The most Holy Trinity confirmed the desire of my Queen, assuring that God will bless all those who, by their support and help, contribute in the making of the Holy Statue, as well as all those who help spread this devotion (to Our Lady of Good Success) throughout the centuries, making known its origin and these apparitions in the 20th century. This will be a time of great corruption of customs…the sacred sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed and despised, for in doing this, one scorns and defiles the Church of God, and even God Himself, represented by His priests. The Demon will try to persecute the Ministers of the Lord in every possible way…”

Sr. Marianne de Jesus Torres - Seventeenth Century

“God will punish the world when men have devised marvelous inventions that will lead them to forgetting God. They will have horseless carriages, and they will fly like birds”

Blessed Rembordt - Eighteenth Century


#11

“Before the war breaks out again, food will be scarce and expensive. There will be little work for the workers, and fathers will hear their children crying for food. There will be earthquakes and signs in the sun. Toward the end, darkness will cover the earth. When everyone believes that peace is assured, when everyone least expects it, the great happening will begin. Revolution will break out in Italy almost at the same time as in France. For some time the Church will be without a Pope.”

The Ecstatic of Tours - Nineteenth Century

“All states will be shaken by war and civil conflict. During a darkness lasting three days the people given to evil ways will perish so that only one-fourth of mankind will survive.”

Sr. Mary of Jesus Crucified - Nineteenth Century

“The crisis will come on all of a sudden and the Chastisement will be worldwide.”

Marie-Julie Jahenny - Nineteenth Century


In 1946, just after the end of World War II, Therese Neumann, a German stigmatic and mystic, was asked by an American GI if the United States would ever be destroyed or invaded in a war. Her answer was pointed:

“No, but at the end of this century America will be destroyed economically by a series of natural disasters.”

Therese Neumann, German mystic, Twentieth Century


#12

This page has an interesting collection of Bible codes:
exodus2006.com/3code.htm
There are also other theories like the one that God made the mathematical constant Pi so humans know they are close to God no matter what universe they are in. It’s all around us.


#13

Two questions:

  1. Neumann’s prophecy appears not to have been fulfilled, if she was referring to the end of the 20th century. Debasement of the currency by the government and other evils do not qualify as “natural disasters.” (Moral disasters, certainly, but that’s different.) Perhaps she meant, “within a century”? That seems unlikely, however.

  2. Care to provide citations?

Scullinius


#14

[quote=Scullinius]Two questions:

  1. Neumann’s prophecy appears not to have been fulfilled, if she was referring to the end of the 20th century. Debasement of the currency by the government and other evils do not qualify as “natural disasters.” (Moral disasters, certainly, but that’s different.) Perhaps she meant, “within a century”? That seems unlikely, however.

  2. Care to provide citations?

Scullinius
[/quote]

I unfortunately don’t have the citations it’s simply a list I got from somewhere which looked credible. You’re right however the government and war doesn’t count, though there have been quite a lot of forest fires and hurricanes and crazy weather in the US. Perhaps she’s quoted wrong or she was being vague to the time as a lot of them are, end of century could mean before, at, sometime in the first few years of the next century or she might even be counting from the time the question was asked of her, however the most probable explanation is that whenever they refer to century, they really mean THE century, according to God’s view of the stages of mankind’s growth since creation. We are supposed to be in the 7th stage (7th century in that respect) and it’s said to be the last… I guess all we can do is watch and see if it is true… pretty much what most of these prophecies demand anyway…


#15

Now this next piece comes from a man named Albert Pike, a 33rd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite, and founder of the Ku Klux Clan (There is a statue erected proudly to him in Washington DC). It is a controversial letter that he wrote claiming to be inspired by a ‘spirit guide’, but which many see really as a demonic vision. At the time it is claimed he wrote it in 1871, it was not a prophecy, still isn’t, it is as it was originally intended to be, a plan for One World Government brought about by three systematic world wars. Many still debate the authenticity of this letter or whether people today are following it.

The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.”

The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.”

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”


#16

The Last Secret of Fatima:

The Virgin told Lucia: "Go my child and tell the world what will come to pass during the years 1950-2005. Men are not practicing the commandments that our Father has given us. Evil is governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men will fabricate mortal weapons that destroy the world in minutes and half of the human race will be destroyed.

The war will begin against Rome and there will be conflicts amongst religious orders. "God will allow all natural phenomenon’s like smoke, hale, cold, water, fire, flood, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather will slowly batter the planet. These things will come to pass in the year 2004. Those who do not believe, this is the time your beloved mother tells you those lacking charity towards others and those who do not love thy neighbour like my beloved Son has loved you all, cannot survive. They will wish they had died. Millions are imaginable, they will come and there is no doubt. Our Lord God will punish severely those who do not believe in Him, those who despise Him and those who did not have time for Him. I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ. God helps the world but all of those who do not show fidelity and loyalty will be destroyed. Father Agustin who lives in Fatima said that Pope Paul VI gave him permission to visit Sister Lucia who is a recluse nun (she does not leave the monastery nor allowed to receive any visitors). Father Agustin said that she was greatly overwhelmed to receive him and told him: "Father, our Lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight to their destruction. Believe me father, the punishment will come very soon. Many souls will be lost, many nations will disappear from the earth, but in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice good deeds, the world can be saved. On all of these, if men persist with its evil, the world will be lost forever. The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to their families, friends and to the entire world. Start praying to make penitence and catastrophes are near. Due to this, many who were far from the church will return to the open arms of the Catholic Church. England, Russia, China, the Jews and Protestants, all will return believing and Worshipping God our Creator, in his beloved son and in our Blessed Mother Virgin Mary "WHAT AWAITS US?

CONTD>


#17

Everywhere there will be “Peace Talks” but punishments will come. A MAN IN A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL PROVOKE THE WAR. A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPE AND THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL COMMENCE.

This war will destroy everything. Darkness will fall over us. For 72 hours (three days) and the one third of humanity that survives this obscurity and sacrifice will commence to live a new era, they will be good people. In a very cold night, 10 minutes before midnight, A GREAT QUAKE will shake the earth for 8 hours. This will be the third Signal that God is who governs the earth. The righteous and those who propagate the faith and the message the Lady of Fatima SHOULD NOT FEAR, DO NOT BE AFRAID. WHAT TO DO??? Bow your heads kneel down and ask God for forgiveness because only what is good and is not under the power of evil will survive the catastrophe. In order for you to prepare and remain alive I will give you the following signs: ANGUISH … AND IN A SHORT PERIOD THE EARTHQUAKE WILL COMMENCE … THE EARTH WILL SHAKE …

The shake will be so violent that it will move the earth 23 degrees then return to its normal position. Then total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet …All evil spirits will be mingling around and free, doing harm to all those souls that did not want to listen to this message and those who did not want to repent. To the faithful souls, remember to light the blessed candles. Prepare a Sacred altar with a crucifix in order to communicate with GOD and implore for his infinite mercy… All will be dark; IN THE SKY A GREAT MYSTIC CROSS will appear to remind us the price that his beloved Son had to pay for our Redemption … In the house the only thing that can give light will be the HOLY CANDLES … Once lit nothing will put them off until the three days of darkness are over. Also you should have Holy Water that should be sprinkled abundantly on windows and doors. The Lord will protect the property of the chosen ones. Kneel down before the powerful cross of my Beloved son, pray the Rosary and after each Hail Mary, you must pray the following "Oh God forgive us our sins. preserve us from the fire of hell, take all souls into Heaven, especially those who are in more need of thy mercy. Blessed Virgin Mary, protect us, we love you, save us and save the world. "Pray 5 Creeds and the rosary which is the secret to my Immaculate Heart. All those who believe in my words, go and take the message to everyone. DO NOT FEAR. FEAR NOTHING is time, those who keep quiet will be Responsible for all those souls who will perish in ignorance. All those who pray humbly the Rosary will have the protection of Heaven and those who are bound to die, I will help them die in peace and they will be Holy when they enter the other world, I wish all my children to attend mass every first Friday and every first Saturday of each month to confess and receive Holy Communion and in doing so, save the world from TOTAL DESTRUCTION … WHEN the earth shakes no more, those who still will not believe in our Lord will perish in a horrible way. The wind will bring gas and it will disperse everywhere then the sun will rise. May be you will survive this catastrophe. Do not forget that God’s punishment is Holy and ONCE IT HAS STARTED YOU SHOULD NOT LOOK OUTSIDE, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, GOD DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HIS CHILDREN TO SEE WHEN HE PUNISHES THE SINNERS … All this encompasses with the writings of the Holy Scriptures …


#18

I. The Great Warning

[list=1]
*][size=2]Isa. 34:4. And all the host of the heavens shall pine away, and the heavens shall be folded together as a book: and all their host shall fall down as the leaf falleth from the vine, and from the fig tree. [/size]
*]Apoc. 6:14. And the heaven departed as a book folded up. And every mountain, and the islands, were moved out of their places.
[/list]II. The Great Chastisement
[list=1]Isaias

[/list]13:4. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, as it were of many people, the noise of the sound of kings, of nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts hath given charge to the troops of war.

13:5. To them that come from a country afar off, from the end of heaven: the Lord and the instruments of his wrath, to destroy the whole land.

13:6. Howl ye, for the day of the Lord is near: it shall come as a destruction from the Lord. (Note: The day of the Lord… That is, the time when he will execute justice upon sinners.)

13:7. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every heart of man shall melt,

13:8. And shall be broken. Gripings and pains, shall take hold of them, they shall be in pain as a woman in labour. Every one shall be amazed at his neighbour, their countenances shall be as faces burnt.

13:9. Behold, the day of the Lord shall come, a cruel day, and full of indignation, and of wrath, and fury, to lay the land desolate, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

13:10. For the stars of heaven, and their brightness shall not display their light: the sun shall be darkened in his rising, and the moon shall not shine with her light.

13:11. And I will visit the evils of the world, and against the wicked for their iniquity: and I will make the pride of infidels to cease, and will bring down the arrogancy of the mighty.

13:12. A man shall be more precious than gold, yea a man than the finest of gold.

13:13. For this I will trouble the heaven: and the earth shall be moved out of her place, for the indignation of the Lord of hosts, and for the day of his fierce wrath.

24:1. Behold the Lord shall lay waste the earth, and shall strip it, and shall afflict the face thereof, and scatter abroad the inhabitants thereof.

24:3. With desolation shall the earth be laid waste, and it shall be utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.

24:19. With breaking shall the earth be broken, with crushing shall the earth be crushed, with trembling shall the earth be moved.

24:20. With shaking shall the earth be shaken as a drunken man, and shall be removed as the tent of one night: and the iniquity thereof shall be heavy upon it, and it shall fall, and not rise again.

26:21. For behold the Lord will come out of his place, to visit the iniquity of the inhabitant of the earth against him: and the earth shall disclose her blood, and shall cover her slain no more.

50:3. I will clothe the heavens with darkness, and will make sackcloth their covering.

63:2. Why then is thy apparel red, and thy garments like theirs that tread in the winepress?

63:3. I have trodden the winepress alone, and of the Gentiles there is not a man with me: I have trampled on them in my indignation, and have trodden them down in my wrath, and their blood is sprinkled upon my garments, and I have stained all my apparel.

63:4. For the day of vengeance is in my heart, the year of my redemption is come.

63:5. I looked about, and there was none to help: I sought, and there was none to give aid: and my own arm hath saved for me, and my indignation itself hath helped me.

63:6. And I have trodden down the people in my wrath, and have made them drunk in my indignation, and have brought down their strength to the earth.

66:15. For behold the Lord will come with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind, to render his wrath in indignation, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

66:16. For the Lord shall judge by fire, and by his sword unto all flesh, and the slain of the Lord shall be many.


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[list=1]Jeremias

[/list]5:31. The noise is come even to the ends of the earth: for the Lord entereth into judgment with the nations: he entereth into judgment with all flesh; the wicked I have delivered up to the sword, saith the Lord.

25:32. Thus saith the Lord of hosts: Behold evil shall go forth from nation to nation: and a great whirlwind shall go forth from the ends of the earth.

25:33. And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even to the other end thereof: they shall not be lamented, and they shall not be gathered up, nor buried: they shall lie as dung upon the face of the earth.

[list=1]Ezechiel

[/list]38:1. And the word of the Lord came to me, saying:

38:2. Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Mosoch and Thubal: and prophesy of him, Gog…

38:3. And say to him: Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I come against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Mosoch and Thubal.

38:4. And I will turn thee about, and I will put a bit in thy jaws: and I will bring thee forth, and all thy army, horses and horsemen all clothed with coats of mail, a great multitude, armed with spears and shields and swords.

38:5. The Persians, Ethiopians, and Libyans with them, all with shields and helmets.

38:6. Gomer, and all his bands, the house of Thogorma, the northern parts and all his strength, and many peoples with thee.

38:7. Prepare and make thyself ready, and all thy multitude that is assembled about thee, and be thou commander over them.

38:8. After many days thou shalt be visited: at the end of years thou shalt come to the land that is returned from the sword, and is gathered out of many nations, to the mountains of Israel which have been continually waste: but it hath been brought forth out of the nations, and they shall all of them dwell securely in it.

38:9. And thou shalt go up and come like a storm, and like a cloud to cover the land, thou and all thy bands and many people with thee.

38:10. Thus saith the Lord God: In that day projects shall enter into thy heart, and thou shalt conceive a mischievous design.

38:11. And thou shalt say: I will go up to the land which is without a wall, I will come to them that are at rest, and dwell securely: all these dwell without a wall, they have no bars nor gates:

38:12. To take spoils, and lay hold on the prey, to lay thy hand upon them that had been wasted, and afterwards restored, and upon the people that is gathered together out of the nations, which hath begun to possess and to dwell in the midst of the earth.

38:13. Saba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tharsis, and all the lions thereof shall say to thee: Art thou come to take spoils? behold, thou hast gathered thy multitude to take a prey, to take silver, and gold, and to carry away goods and substance, and to take rich spoils.

38:14. Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: Thus saith the Lord God: Shalt thou not know, in that day, when my people of Israel shall dwell securely?

38:15. And thou shalt come out of thy place from the northern parts, thou and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company and a mighty army.

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38:16. And thou shalt come upon my people of Israel like a cloud, to cover the earth. Thou shalt be in the latter days, and I will bring thee upon my land: that the nations may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

38:17.Thus saith the Lord God: Thou then art he, of whom I have spoken in the days of old, by my servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied in the days of those times that I would bring thee upon them.

38:18. And it shall come to pass in that day, in the day of the coming of Gog upon the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my indignation shall come up in my wrath.

38:19. And I have spoken in my zeal, and in the fire of my anger, that in that day there shall be a great commotion upon the land of Israel:

38:20. So that the fishes of the sea, and the birds of the air, and the beasts of the field, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the ground, and all men that are upon the face of the earth, shall be moved at my presence: and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the hedges shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

38:21. And I will call in the sword against him in all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man’s sword shall be pointed against his brother.

38:22. And I will judge him with pestilence, and with blood, and with violent rain, and vast hailstones: I will rain fire and brimstone upon him, and upon his army, and upon the many nations that are with him.

38:23. And I will be magnified, and I will be sanctified: and I will be known in the eyes of many nations and they shall know that I am the Lord.

39:21. And I will set my glory among the nations: and all nations shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

[list]Joel

[/list]2:1. Blow ye the trumpet in Sion, sound an alarm in my holy mountain, let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: because the day of the Lord cometh, because it is nigh at hand.

2:2. A day of darkness, and of gloominess, a day of clouds and whirlwinds: a numerous and strong people as the morning spread upon the mountains: the like to it hath not been from the beginning, nor shall be after it, even to the years of generation and generation.

2:3. Before the face thereof a devouring fire, and behind it a burning flame: the land is like a garden of pleasure before it, and behind it a desolate wilderness, neither is there any one that can escape it.

2:4. The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses, and they shall run like horsemen.

2:5. They shall leap like the noise of chariots upon the tops of mountains, like the noise of a flame of fire devouring the stubble, as a strong people prepared to battle.

2:6. At their presence the people shall be in grievous pains: all faces shall be made like a kettle.

2:7. They shall run like valiant men: like men of war they shall scale the wall: the men shall march every one on his way, and they shall not turn aside from their ranks.

2:8. No one shall press upon his brother: they shall walk every one in his path: yea, and they shall fall through the windows, and shall take no harm.

2:9. They shall enter into the city: they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up the houses, they shall come in at the windows, as a thief.

2:10. At their presence the earth hath trembled, the heavens are moved: the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars have withdrawn their shining.

2:11. And the Lord hath uttered his voice before the face of his army: for his armies are exceedingly great, for they are strong, and execute his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible: and who can stand it?

2:31. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood: before the great and dreadful day of the Lord doth come.

3:9. Proclaim ye this among the nations: Prepare war, raise up the strong: let them come, let all the men of war come up.

3:12. Let them arise, and let the nations come up into the valley of Josaphat: for there I will sit to judge all nations round about.

3:14. Nations, nations in the valley of destruction: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of destruction.

3:15. The sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars have withdrawn their shining.


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