[quote="Mgray82, post:1, topic:285459"]
Can anyone shed some light on the church's view on alcoholism or alcohol as a disease as suggested by Alcoholics Anonymois?
My friend, let's start at the beginning. All addictions are a form of obsessive behavior. To the degree that the person's control is diminished, the culpability proportionality diminished until there is no culpability.
Under this vision fall all addictions including alcoholism, pornography, masturbation, drugs and a few others. Nine out of ten times the loss of freedom or self-control is an indicator of some psychological or biologic event taking place.
It is not the place of the Church to compete with medicine. She listens to medicine and she accepts what is reasonable and moral.
For example; to my knowledge the church views homosexuality a dis-order in God's human program for man and woman to procreate. Thus, homosexual activity goes against God's devine purpose in conjunction but not related to sex outside of marraige. However, the Catholic church can neither agree or disagree that there is a "homosexual gene" and cannot trace the exact "root" to homosexuality.
Here again, we have to be honest. Traddom loves the word disorder, because many people can use it to justify their homophobic and often abusive behavior toward homosexual people. Some of these folks assume an attitude that says, "I thank God that I'm not made like the rest of men." I have yet to hear one of these folks on forums or blogs admit to the fact that there are many disordered behaviors among straight people. On the contrary. The speak of homosexuals as aberrant and heterosexuals are never mentioned or considered capable aberrant behaviors.
The Church's use of the term "disorder" comes from a very ancient term that had fallen out of use for more than 1,000 years and has been resurrected after Vatican II, which meant out of compliance with the norm or in plain English, ayptical. She is not using the term in a medical sense or even a moral sense. It's an anthropological use of the world "disorder". This is not typical. Which is true.
Sexual activity, gay or straight has to be evaluated against the purpose of human sexuality. Human sexuality has two equally important ends: unitive and procreative. One does not outdo the other, as some people like to think, just because the unitive was not stressed in Pre-Vatican II documents. Pre-Vatican II documents did not express is, because it was not a public issue. Promiscuity was very common, but it was very discrete, unlike today where it's a sport.
When a person engages in sexual activity outside of marriage, the unitive dimension of sexuality is being ignored. When a person engages in sexual activity that has no possibility of life, not even through some miracle, the second purpose of sexuality is violated.
We have to add a disclaimer here. Thee are people who for biological reasons out of their control cannot conceive. These persons are not engaging in sexual activity that that is outside of the possibilities of conception, if all the other health issues were resolved.
In the case of two people of the same gender, there is nothing that needs resolving. The inability to conceive is not to due to a health problem, but to an incompatibility problem. Conception is incompatible sex between to people of the same gender.
But I pose another view, "if an alcoholic person who cannot have alcohol in any sense. And I mean, tried time and time again but fails miserably to control his drinking. To the point that causes a profound problem in his life legally, amongst family, financially, etc. What does one mere sip of wine do in communion?
It is strongly discouraged. One must always choose the higher good. The higher good is to abstain from the chalice. You have received Christ's body and blood in the consecrated host. Even priests who are alcoholics do not use wine to consecrate. Their is a type of "wine", which is really grape juice that is on the edge of fermenting that can be used in place of wine. Don't ask me to go into the mechanics and chemistry of it all. It's not necessary. Just accept it. There is such a product and it can be consecrated.
Is it biologically impossible based on a genetic composition that the individual cannot drink alcohol? Or does God, present in communion literally curve him from his proclivity"?
The precious blood retains all of the properties of wine, without being wine. If it did not, then the act of drinking the precious blood could be a form of cannibalism. We know that's not true.
Since it retains all the properties of wine, even though it is no longer wine, ti will have the same biological effects on a person who has the alcoholism illness.
Br. JR, FFV :)