[quote="wanabesaint, post:2, topic:316665"]
the Church has not changed its veiws on this, the people have gone their own way.
Borrowing of money is only one of many issues that people(including many who deem themselves part of the arm of the church that are totally ignorant of what the church calls them to) uneducated to what their faith calls them to..
Borrowing of Money is recognized by the Educated as merely perpetuates borrowing of Money.
The Christian Church, in its early days and until the end of the Middle Ages utterly forbade the charging of interest. Reformation was the first questioning of devine law against charging of interest. Calvin proposed that being against extracting interest was mistakenly taken from Mosaic Law..
People of early days considered the extracting of interest, usary as wrong. Mosaic law was very explicit to interest being worng, and still holds that today.
quotes over time are, It is against nature for money to breed money.
bible quotes against interest are, Exodus 22 25 If you lend money to any of my People that is poor, you shall not be to him as a usuer, nor shall thou lay upon him usary ....
Deuteronomy 23 19-23
Nehemiah 5 7
Psalms 15 5
Borrowing of money/usary/wars of revenge/ would all be against the Christian faith, but have been modiified and are a big part of what reformation was about.
Many (deemed) poor nations are lent money to which its before the lending of money noted that they cannot repay the loans, but in turn when the loans are not payed back, the land is then seazed from the people.
the Laws of Property which enable a few to accumalate vast wealth while the masses live in poverty. today the US (as Mexico has already) races to aceive this Aristocratic soceity were a few emass the wealth, and the rest are mere slaves, as Europe made itself by the laws of property, and so many fleed from after reformation...
Not to get political, but you do realize that the nations who have established for-profit banking systems are nations who have the most wealth, many of which are historically Christian nations, and have done more charity and development for the world than all other non-banking nations in history combined?
Going back to theology....You are saying the Church has never changed its position on this. Is this true? They surely seem to tolerate it more now than they did 1,000 years ago. Maybe someone who knows the history on this can provide a source.