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I've been thinking about the whole issue of the culture war. In the West, Christianity has become irrelevant in the minds of many, almost a joke (if not there already). They see it as little more than a threat to their way of life, mostly in the "pelvic issues." Hence, though I have become very skilled at apologetics, it only serves to make people resort to emotional arguments and anger. Even if they see how much better a person I am as a result of my faith, they dismiss it as something the works for me, but not for others.
At work, everyone has said such hateful things about Christians that I have had to remain in the closet just to keep my job.
Even among the Catholics I meet, nearly everyone I have spoken with has openly admitted to being a cafeteria "Catholic" and is hostile to actual Church teaching. The one "Catholic" friend I had quit being my friend over it, and because I'm 29 and most people in the pews are over 60, he's not going to be easy to replace.
I have successfully evangelized to people, and i still make that effort, since Jesus commanded it. But even they still, after two years, refuse to believe all the Church teachings, preferring the liberal secular agenda and its moral relativism.
In short, the faith of our ancestors is just about dead in the West. The post-Christian pagans, who by definition have rejected God, have won the culture war. And that, believe it or not, is God's will; they would have no power over us if He had not given it to them.
Be careful with this. That God allowed it to happen doesn't mean He approves, as with much of other history.
A year ago, when I was really into fighting the culture war, I would have branded anyone who said this as a traitor. But secularism is effectively the law of the land, and we're supposed to obey our superiors when such does not require sin. The early Christians didn't try to change laws or get the pagans to stop their sinful things. They worked mainly on their own holiness and evangelizing.
Except this is demonstrably false, because eventually laws did change to favor Christian values, and it was Christians that did it. They didn't do it immediately because they were too busy avoiding being fed to lions, but they certainly did try to spread the truth.
Now, it is true that not all immoral activity should be outlawed, but with the exception of abortion which is murder, that is not exactly what the "culture wars" are about anyway.
We have no business complaining about the culture when 1) God has allowed it to happen and we can't change it, 2) we're still sinners and therefore have no business telling others what to do, and 3) wanting anything to be different from what it is is no more than rebellion against God, who decided that things should be the way they are.
And, frankly, that's part of why I don't post as much as I used to. Nearly everything on these forums is culture war, culture war, culture war. The pagans have won. Deal with it. That's what I'm doing.
1) God allowed the holocaust. If that were happening, we would have business complaining about it. Saying that we can't complain about what is happening because it is happening is a non-starter.
2) Completely not true (partially because it's not our rules we're trying to uphold, but God's), and contradicts what you earlier said. We're all sinners. They're all sinners. Someone has to tell someone what to do if we don't want anarchy. But again, aside from stopping abortion which is murder, it's not really about telling (via laws) people what to do.
3) This point is similar to your point 1 and has the same issues, but additionally it is worth noting that you could try to use this argument for anything at all. X is fighting the culture war. Ergo, fighting the culture war is happening. Therefore, it is God's will that we be fighting, or we wouldn't be fighting. In such and such country full of starving people, the government steals all foreign aid and keeps it for itself. Therefore, feeding the hungry isn't working, so it must not be God's will that we do so, so we shouldn't. This whole approach is dangerous, because it's essentially us trying to put God's stamp of approval on whatever we feel like doing or not doing when it seems easy or hard. We should stay away from this type of reasoning altogether.
The pagans may be winning for now, but I'm pretty sure I don't remember Jesus saying "go out and tell all people that they're living contrary to My Word, and that's ok." Rather, we are to spread the truth as it is, and that truth contains the fact that our culture is pretty terrible. Now, this obviously doesn't need to be done at all times in all ways, but we can't just give in entirely. I for one don't want to stand in front of the judgement seat of God and tell Him I gave up on His fight because it didn't seem to be going well and I figured if He really cared that much He'd do it Himself.
Again, for emphasis, really be careful with the whole "it's going on so it must be ok" thing. That really is not true.
It totally makes sense to be tired from the culture wars. But we are the Church Militant, we're supposed to be fighting to change the world. If we get tired, then we should recuperate, but we shouldn't just give up.