[quote=justathought]Really? Even indulgences? Buying your way out of purgatory is Biblical? Where?
I wont even begin this arguement, but I will say, the apocrypha is NOT divinely inspired.
And we would find unbiased history on a Catholic website? Don’t fool yourself. If you actually DO read a little history (I’m a history major so do not tell me that I need to read it), today’s Catholic church is not at all the same as the original. It has changed vastly. As an EXAMPLE, I do not see healings performed everyday or 1000s of converts a day or… just read a little history and find out for yourself some of the things the Catholic church was not “absolutely Biblical” on.
Peace be upon all who read this
More anti-Catholic bunk! I bet you go to some Baptist seminary out there in Texas and that’s where you got you your “history”. How do you know about any healings within the Catholic Church today? Are you all-knowing? And thousands of converts? I am pretty sure you are wrong there as well, but you are the hotshot history major, so what do we poor Catholics know about our own faith?
And just how would you know what is a divinely inspired book that belongs in the Bible? Did you inspire them? Despite you assertion to the contrary, the Deuterocanonical books were in the OT that Jesus and the apostles used and in fact 90% of the OT quotes in the NT are from the Greek Septuagint.
As for your nasty little remark about Indulgences, I’ll offer a couple of links so maybe you can learn the truth and not go off on something without knowing what you’re talking about next time.Purgatory
and The Roots of Purgatory
There is ample evidence that the Bible implicitly teaches a Purgatory.
Begin with Matthew 12:32, which says, “And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.” Does tis not imply that some sins can be forgiven in the age to come? Now think this through…There is no sin to forgive in heaven, right? Sin is not forgiven in hell because it’s too late and permanent. So…Impicit “purgatory”
1st Corinthians 3:15 which says, “If any man’s work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.” Again this cannot refer to heaven or hell for the same reasons as above. This is essentially the definition of Purgatory.
1st Peter 3:18-20 which says, “Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit, 19 In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: 20 Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water.”
and 1st Peter 4:6 which says, “For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to the dead: that they might be judged indeed according to men, in the flesh; but may live according to God, in the Spirit” Note that it was a prison for disobedient spirits and yet they were saved when Jesus preached to them.
2nd Maccabees 12:44-46 which says, "44 (For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,) 45 And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them. 46 It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins. "
The same reasons apply here as to the first passages I gave you…
Note also that St. Paul says that the early church believed this in 1st Corinthians 15:29 which says, "Otherwise what shall they do that are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not again at all? why are they then baptized for them? " He does not condemn this practice though it seems to have fallen out of practice…